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  • What normal PH for waterbase hair pomade

    Posted by BeardlyGentlemen on February 18, 2019 at 9:36 am

    Hi friends, at the moment I am working on how much and lipstick formulas for hair, and I have a question what is the normal pH level for lipstick. I get 7.5, is this normal? Or is it necessary to lower? In confusion. I would be grateful for any help. Thank you in advance.

    oldperry replied 4 years, 12 months ago 6 Members · 13 Replies
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  • doreen

    Member
    February 18, 2019 at 3:32 pm

    pH of a lipstick? Or do you mean a water containing lipbalm (with a creamy consistence)?
    A waterfree product has no pH, so there’s no pH to measure.

  • BeardlyGentlemen

    Member
    February 19, 2019 at 12:36 pm

    @Soory dont lipstick, google translate, waterbase hair pomade i meen.

  • doreen

    Member
    February 19, 2019 at 2:19 pm

    @BeardlyGentlemen
    Ok, confusion solved. ;) I think it’s best if you post the compete formula of the pomade. It’s very hard to say anything without knowing more details.

  • oldperry

    Member
    February 19, 2019 at 2:56 pm

    Typically, hair products have a lower pH…say 5.0 - 5.5.  

  • BeardlyGentlemen

    Member
    February 21, 2019 at 9:14 am

    @Doreen, this is formula thats i work now:
    Water - 64%
    Cetearet 25 - 20%
    Polysorbate 80 - 2%
    Propylenglicole - 2%
    Vegetable glycerine - 2%
    PVP k30 - 4%
    PEG 40 - 4%
    Color - 1%
    Scent - 1%
    Scent fixatore - 0,5%
    Preservative - 0,5%

    Product is good, but PH i meen dont good…

  • BeardlyGentlemen

    Member
    February 21, 2019 at 9:15 am

    @Perry, so i and think that 7,5 is more than normal.

  • Dirtnap1

    Member
    February 21, 2019 at 6:10 pm

    How are you measuring pH? pH of the water part or pH of final product?

  • hugi28

    Member
    February 21, 2019 at 6:22 pm

    Hi Perry ! And everybody !  Can anyone recomand a ph tester for cometics? l need to chekc ph for my moisturizer (with other then the strips) and a thicker hair product. 

  • BeardlyGentlemen

    Member
    February 22, 2019 at 10:00 am

    @Dirtnap1 measure the pH of the final product.

  • Dirtnap1

    Member
    February 22, 2019 at 5:04 pm

    What are you using to measure the pH? What temps? After cure or while still hot?

  • BeardlyGentlemen

    Member
    February 23, 2019 at 3:20 pm

    @ Dirtnap1, I change the finished product after cooling

  • Aziz

    Member
    February 24, 2019 at 6:16 pm

    Perry said:

    Typically, hair products have a lower pH…say 5.0 - 5.5.  

    Hi Perry , I read in ‘ Pouchers cosmetics and perfume ‘ pH of hair products should be between 5.5 to 6.2  . 

  • oldperry

    Member
    February 25, 2019 at 6:29 pm

    @Aziz - I don’t really agree with that advice.   Here’s a good article looking at pH of hair and hair care products.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4158629/

    There is no standardized value for the shampoo final pH, and this is not a mandatory issue. The pH value is not informed on the labels. As the hair fiber has a pH of 3.67, a pH closer to 3.67 has less possibility to increase the negative electric charge that normally involves the capillary fiber. To address the treatment of the scalp, shampoos must not have a pH higher than 5.5.”

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