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    Posted by tecnico3vinia on March 31, 2022 at 2:55 pm

    Hi there!

    I would like to know some thermal sensory modifiers that produce ‘warm up’ and ‘cooling’ sensations on skin. I know menthol and menthyl lactate (that are used to produce cooling effect), but I’d like to know more suggestions!

    I’d like to add these ingredients in a product line destined to sexual wellness use, like massage oils and gels. 

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Kind regards. 

    tecnico3vinia replied 2 years, 8 months ago 7 Members · 17 Replies
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  • WarrenChemist

    Member
    March 31, 2022 at 8:54 pm

    depending on where specifically your products are meant to be used, capsaicin will provide a warming effect. There is also a material sold by Vantage “hotact” that I have found to be quite effective in a warming charcoal scrub I formulated years ago.

  • Bill_Toge

    Member
    March 31, 2022 at 9:50 pm

    vanillyl butyl ether is an effective warming agent, as is camphor

  • Dtdang

    Member
    April 1, 2022 at 3:14 am

    @WarrenChemist I used Hotact from Vantage for emulsified sugar scrubs. But, I failed to provide the warming effect. I also tried Coolact, I also faied to provide the cooling effect. I contacted Vantage through email. There was no reply. I put hotact during the cooling phase.
    The ingredients: 

    Shea Butter
    Olive Oil
    Grapeseed Oil
    Castor Oil
    Emulsified Wax
    Stearic acid

    Cooling down

    Germall Plus

    Rosemary Oleoresin
    HotAct  
    Sugar

    Thank you so much in advance

  • WarrenChemist

    Member
    April 1, 2022 at 11:58 am

    Dtdang said:

    @WarrenChemist I used Hotact from Vantage for emulsified sugar scrubs. But, I failed to provide the warming effect. I also tried Coolact, I also faied to provide the cooling effect. I contacted Vantage through email. There was no reply. I put hotact during the cooling phase.
    The ingredients: 

    Shea Butter
    Olive Oil
    Grapeseed Oil
    Castor Oil
    Emulsified Wax
    Stearic acid

    Cooling down

    Germall Plus

    Rosemary Oleoresin
    HotAct  
    Sugar

    Thank you so much in advance

    I recall having some issues with fats provided a “dampening” effect of sorts with this material. Possibly could be an issue here as well. 

  • Dtdang

    Member
    April 1, 2022 at 2:12 pm

    @WarrenChemist! Thank you.

  • chemicalmatt

    Member
    April 1, 2022 at 2:38 pm

    I’d think you want sex to heat up not cool down. Any interest in using the Zeolites from Grace in an oil or silicone base? They warm up nicely when wetted.

  • evchem2

    Member
    April 1, 2022 at 4:04 pm

    Second the zeolite suggestion by chemical matt.

    Tangentially, you could also use methyl nicotinate. It is a rubefacient first so expect some reddening of the skin along with slight tingling. Also less is definitely more in this case, it doesn’t take much to produce decent effect.

  • Dtdang

    Member
    April 1, 2022 at 4:54 pm

    @EVchem! Thank you. I will try.

  • Pattsi

    Member
    April 2, 2022 at 12:17 pm

    evchem2 said:

    Tangentially, you could also use methyl nicotinate. It is a rubefacient first so expect some reddening of the skin along with slight tingling. Also less is definitely more in this case, it doesn’t take much to produce decent effect.

    In the name of marketing god and my curiosity, I sampled methyl nicotinate penis oil from India and methyl nicotinate vaginal gel from China on the back of my hands, my skin went red for hours and uncomfortably tingled.

  • Dtdang

    Member
    April 2, 2022 at 12:44 pm

    @Pattsi! Thanks a lot.

  • tecnico3vinia

    Member
    April 4, 2022 at 12:43 pm

    depending on where specifically your products are meant to be used, capsaicin will provide a warming effect. There is also a material sold by Vantage “hotact” that I have found to be quite effective in a warming charcoal scrub I formulated years ago.

    Thank you! 

  • tecnico3vinia

    Member
    April 4, 2022 at 12:45 pm

    Bill_Toge said:

    vanillyl butyl ether is an effective warming agent, as is camphor

    I will definitely try Vanillyl Butyl Ether out! Thank you. 

  • tecnico3vinia

    Member
    April 4, 2022 at 12:47 pm

    I’d think you want sex to heat up not cool down. Any interest in using the Zeolites from Grace in an oil or silicone base? They warm up nicely when wetted.

    That’s so interesting! I never would thought of zeolites for this application. I’ll check if they’re available in my country. Thank you, Matt. 

  • tecnico3vinia

    Member
    April 4, 2022 at 12:50 pm

    evchem2 said:

    Second the zeolite suggestion by chemical matt.

    Tangentially, you could also use methyl nicotinate. It is a rubefacient first so expect some reddening of the skin along with slight tingling. Also less is definitely more in this case, it doesn’t take much to produce decent effect.

    Methyl Nicotinate, interesting! I think we have it in our lab here. I will try to test it later. Thank you for the heads up. 

  • tecnico3vinia

    Member
    April 4, 2022 at 12:52 pm

    Pattsi said:

    evchem2 said:

    Tangentially, you could also use methyl nicotinate. It is a rubefacient first so expect some reddening of the skin along with slight tingling. Also less is definitely more in this case, it doesn’t take much to produce decent effect.

    In the name of marketing god and my curiosity, I sampled methyl nicotinate penis oil from India and methyl nicotinate vaginal gel from China on the back of my hands, my skin went red for hours and uncomfortably tingled.

    Ouch! If I ever use it in some formulation I guess it’s better they’re not recommended for use in intimate areas. Many thanks, Pattsi. 

  • Dtdang

    Member
    April 4, 2022 at 5:10 pm

    @tecnico3vinia!
    would you please look at my ingredients above? Tell me what wrong ?
     Thanks in advance 

  • tecnico3vinia

    Member
    April 5, 2022 at 1:44 pm

    Dtdang said:

    @tecnico3vinia!
    would you please look at my ingredients above? Tell me what wrong ?
     Thanks in advance 

    Hey! Unfortunately I can’t tell you what’s wrong. I actually never worked with Hotact. I’d suggest that you create a discussion with this issue, so more people can see it and maybe help you. 

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