Home Cosmetic Science Talk Formulating Hair Salycilic acid shampoo

  • em88

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    April 2, 2018 at 9:12 am

    In india everything is possible.
    There is still a problem with that formulation. In order to keep ketoconazole stable you will have to have pH around 7, this means SA has to be neutralized totally. 

  • amitvedakar

    Member
    April 5, 2018 at 10:01 am

    @em88  ketoconazole shampoo is stable as per you mentioned pH 7.
    we got tested after two year.
    but with SA is challenging.

  • em88

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    April 5, 2018 at 1:43 pm

    @amitvedakar here is a nice paper regarding the stability of ketoconazole https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/7afb/7edf582cb706c85382a1c28fdbeec646ec48.pdf
    The main problem with ketoconazole shampoos is dissolving it, but after dissolving it the next problem is stability. Ketoconazole is not stable in water solution. Within some time the impurities will increase very quickly. 
    I was wondering how did you manage to keep ketoconazole stable. Maybe we can talk in private and share some info together so we can optimize our formulations. :)

    Regarding the SA shampoo, the first problem I faced was the possibility to dissolve SA before adding it in the shampoo base and in the same time avoiding foam. I did this, now the process is smooth. No foam is created which means the bottle filling procedure comes immediately after the preparation. :) 

  • amitvedakar

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    April 11, 2018 at 9:18 am

    @em88 we dissolve it in con hcl. after dissolution we dilute it.
    maintain final product at pH 6 to 7.
    we purchased SA & ketoconazole combination prodct from the mkt which has 6.5 pH.  

  • Gunther

    Member
    May 20, 2018 at 3:38 pm

    @Belassi
    I’d start with Sodium Salicylate, either by reacting bare salicylic acid with dilute NaOH, or by buying premade SS.

    SS is way more soluble than Salicylic Acid.

    You’d need to lower shampoo pH to match SA pka 2.97, to get 50% SA / 50% SS
    So you’d get more than 50% soluble SS at normal shampoo pH levels
    Compare that to 0% SS if starting with SA from the beginning.

    Many commercial shampoos have SS
    https://int.eucerin.com/our-research/ingredients/s/sodium%20salicylate

  • amitvedakar

    Member
    May 21, 2018 at 5:59 am
    At PH  6.5 to 7. Ketoconazole is stable. but Will SA work at this pH.
    What pH should be maintained of  SA shampoo to work SA.
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