Home Cosmetic Science Talk Formulating Probiotics and Postbiotics in Skincare

  • PhilGeis

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    December 2, 2021 at 8:00 am

    Probiotic survival at titer is a major issue for any application.  In a (preserved) cosmetic, it’s problematic.
    Advantage?  Assuming yoy’ll not pusruse some measyrable endpoint - sales hype.

  • cosmetic_chemist

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    December 2, 2021 at 7:41 pm

    PhilGeis said:

    Probiotic survival at titer is a major issue for any application.  In a (preserved) cosmetic, it’s problematic.
    Advantage?  Assuming yoy’ll not pusruse some measyrable endpoint - sales hype.

    Thank You! 
    I am leaning more towards postbiotics for ease of formulating. 

  • pharma

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    December 2, 2021 at 8:43 pm
    Do you know Estée Lauder’s Advanced Night Repair Serum?
    It’s one of the first well known products containing ferments which are now hyped as ‘postbiotics’… I guess that back in the day when they launched it, this term hasn’t even been invented yet ;) .
  • PhilGeis

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    December 2, 2021 at 10:47 pm

    SKII from Procter & Gamble from the early 80’s has a yeast ferment 

  • cosmetic_chemist

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    December 3, 2021 at 2:13 pm

    Pharma said:

    Do you know Estée Lauder’s Advanced Night Repair Serum?
    It’s one of the first well known products containing ferments which are now hyped as ‘postbiotics’… I guess that back in the day when they launched it, this term hasn’t even been invented yet ;) .

    Yes, I have seen that around the market.

    It is quite expensive, i think its $130. 

  • pharma

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    December 3, 2021 at 8:40 pm

    Cosmetics… when people pay hundreds of $$$ for bug poop :smiley: !

  • markbroussard

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    December 4, 2021 at 3:23 pm

    @Cosmetic_Chemist

    You can make virtually any cosmetic product using these ingredients.  Be they Ferments, Lysates, Chicory Root Extract, Inulin, etc. the whole panoply of ingredients that comprise the space pre, pro, post-biotics are not really any different than working with any other cosmetic ingredient 

  • pharma

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    December 4, 2021 at 8:08 pm

    Well… probiotics are a different story cause they are, by definition, living microbes… dunno how that should work unless dispersed in lyophilised form in an anhydrous product.

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