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Need help w/ a Natural Face Wash Formula
Hello!
I am hoping to get some advice/input on formulating a natural face wash (preferably slightly creamy). Could anyone give me a basic recipe/formula to follow (one that is adequately preserved)? Or any ideas would be great!
Thanks!
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If you are looking for a homemade recipe there is a service called google.Try to google “Natural Face Wash Formula”If you are working for a company ask your surfactant supplier.After you have done some tests you are welcome to ask us how to improve your formula. -
You can search through this source for a free starting formula.
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Thanks Perry! I will definitely look into all those.
I thought about my post last night and thought maybe I should have been more specific. I am definitely not looking for a homemade recipe and don’t need any annoyed responses.
I am at the beginning stages of developing a natural face cleanser that will be sold commercially so a simple google search will not suffice, and would just appreciate some substantial advice from professionals. I will do more independent research and may post on this topic down the road.
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@chelsea78 - it might be worth it for you to sign up with Prospector.com There are lots of supplier starting formulas there. If you have problems signing up let me know and I can help.
Please don’t be discouraged by what might seem like negative responses here. People genuinely do want to help solve formulation problems and mentor others. It’s just that some questions are posed in a way that suggests the questioner didn’t do any basic research and are taking advantage of others on the forum.It’s difficult to know where that line is which is why I try to answer all questions. But I understand why some of the experts here who are freely giving their time and advice can get a little impatient.I hope this doesn’t dissuade you from posting in the future. -
If minimizing eye sting is not a concern, one avenue you might take would be liquid or cream soap. By using a mixture of potassium & sodium soaps, you can get a creamy liquid consistency; all-potassium soaps will be clear, runny liquids, and the more sodium you add, the more opaque & viscous it becomes.
Preserving liquid soaps is a tricky & somewhat controversial matter. They aren’t alkaline enough to self-preserve against all plausible inoculums of bacteria, yet they are alkaline enough to curtail the action of many antimicrobials. There’s a thread on the problem here -https://chemistscorner.com/cosmeticsciencetalk/discussion/214/preservative-for-liquid-soap-done-with-koh — with a link (that still works) to an info resource. One tip that many agree on is that EDTA is of especially good help in preserving liquid soap; you might think soap itself would sop up the cations that bacteria crave as micronutrients, but apparently their affinity is low enough that EDTA helps a lot.
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Your first decision is whether to use saponified oils, i.e. traditional soap, or surfactants. There are surfactants that qualify as “natural”; Kao has some in its range.
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A note regarding “annoyed” responses …
No one has to reply to any post on this forum. If you think the questioner has not done their research, then simply don’t reply. No one is forcing anyone to read nor reply to any post. I find it amusing that people waste their time with a snarky reply … better you just not reply at all if you don’t have a positive, helpful response.Personally, I do not think the “Vote” on a post is a useful addition to the forum. It seems to have created an increasingly negative attitude on the forums. -
I’d have to agree with voting not being all that helpful, especially since it changes the order of the responses. Chronological order makes it easier to understand the discussion.
The problem I have is that it’s getting harder to distinguish between lazy people who want us to just hand them answers so they don’t have to do any work themselves, and professionals/dedicated hobbyists who genuinely need help. This is made worse, I’m afraid, by people who don’t speak English fluentlyThe point about just ignoring posts is well-taken. I’ll do that more in the future.@Chelsea78, most companies that sell natural raw materials to commercial clients are also able to provide sample/starting formulations, To find a supplier who can help, first go to a certifying organization, like the NPA, then get a list of suppliers, and then start checking websites/making phone calls. A large number of these formulas are compiled at HAPPI, SpecialChem, and Prospector. -
I do agree with @Bobzchemist, formulator should search on google first and if He or She is not getting any answer then raise a query on Chemist corner. For starting formula, new comers should refer Prospector.com (as suggested by Perry). Natural means? fully or partially? or actives would be natural? please elaborate…….
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The comment was not directed at you as you most often provide excellent advice, so please do not interpret it that way.In this particular case, the question posed is so broad and nonspecific that it can be interpreted in different ways … the fact that I did not attempt to offer any advice gives you an idea of my thoughts on the question as presented.Sometimes silence says it all. But, if you are interested in providing some help, better to ask the OP to provide more detail as opposed to suggesting that they use this thing called Google. There’s enough negativity and snide attitudes elsewhere on the internet, I’d hate to see that attitude sneaking its way into this forum.
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I agree to a certain extent.
I see questions all the time that are worded in such a way that it is obvious it is a home crafter who has NOT done their due diligence and researched at least the basics. In many cases I see requests in broken English for complete formulations, for free. Oftentimes I see crafters asking about products they shouldn’t make (acne products, sunscreens, and my favorite “I am a beginner with no Chemistry experience and I want to make a water in oil in water emulsion with a PIT inversion.” (This is an actual question from 9 months ago). I myself do not answer these questions and ignore them. In this respect I agree.
However, in certain cases I believe that we should challenge these home crafters to do their own research. A quick answer will give the details but will not give them a foundation in the basics. Cosmetic Science is in many ways an academic pursuit and in that case these crafters should not be given a quick answer but rather be challenged to research on their own. This is not a new concept and in the end will better serve the questioner in the long run. My Professors challenged me and did not make my feelings an issue. Science is an Academic pursuit and facts will oftentimes triumph over feelings.
Lastly, this forum started as a Professional site. I am not advocating keeping it that way or being exclusionary. Rather I am throwing out the gauntlet and suggesting that we should raise their knowledge level to ours, not vice versa.
Alternatively perhaps a section could be set-up for questions from crafter and their questions posted there. There are also numerous Facebook pages where the neophyte can get more basic instruction.
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