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Laureth 3 issues

Posted by luiscuevasii on August 18, 2015 at 3:53 am

Greetings.

I just bought Genapol La030 very cheap from clariant, the supplier told me that it can be used as thickener and emulsifier, but I’m making some test and I can’t figure out how it works.

First I wanted to used as solubilicer of oil Fragance, used from 0.5% to 8% and didn’t work

Second I used as thickener in a dishwashibg product but it doesn’t responds to salt at all.

Third and Last I used as thickener in a shampoo formula with sls and betaine but I got the same viscosity.

Plus all of this it puts white color to everything.

My question is : has anyone tried this product, if so, can anyone tell me what is it use and what can I do with it.

The only use that I’m thinking right now is a co-pearlecent effect to my current shampoo formula.

Bobzchemist replied 8 years, 9 months ago 6 Members · 18 Replies
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Microformulation

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August 18, 2015 at 4:17 am

You would use it as an emulsifier with another co-emulsifier generally. It has an HLB of 8. I have used this and another Laureth emulsifier in combination.
luiscuevasii

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August 18, 2015 at 1:30 pm

Thanks Microformulation, well im going to make some test as remplacement of Tween80 for emulsion with Glycol stearate, its a shame because i wanted to used it as solubilizer or Thickener.

Btw do you know how to thicken it?.
Microformulation

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August 18, 2015 at 2:41 pm

It isn’t a thickener per se. I don’t know how to make it a thickener as such.
David

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August 18, 2015 at 11:16 pm

A long time ago I have used it as a thickener in a shampoo - it works but depends of course on the rest of the formulation
luiscuevasii

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August 19, 2015 at 2:06 pm

Thanks David, can you tell me how did you do to thicken your shampoo with laureth 3, it seems that it has no response to Salt.

Im making test ussing it into a Oil in water emulsions.
Bobzchemist

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August 19, 2015 at 3:18 pm

This Clariant brochure calls out the LA 30 as part of an associative thickener system. That makes sense to me - it won’t work as a thickener by itself.

http://biokhimact.com.ua/sites/default/files/I%26HC%20brochure-1.pdf 

Supplier Formula:

https://www.ulprospector.com/documents/1015745.pdf?bs=1022&b=106358&st=20 

For those of us who need to know more, this is a truly great article to read:

http://www.innoleague.com/formulatingwithassociativerheologymodifiers.pdf 
David

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August 19, 2015 at 8:29 pm

@ Bobzchemist none of the links work (in europe)

one says it is Hacked By GASTON DIABLO ??
David

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August 19, 2015 at 8:39 pm

luiscuevasii I just added it! however it was laureth-2 I think
luiscuevasii

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August 19, 2015 at 9:30 pm

Thanks Bobzchemist , as David says none of those links works in south America, btw i cant log in Ulprospector, can you please email me the PDF Lcuevas@caveschemical.com
Bobzchemist

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August 20, 2015 at 2:56 am

https://bobzchemist.wordpress.com/2015/08/20/formulating-with-associative-rheology-modifiers/ 
Bobzchemist

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August 20, 2015 at 3:10 am

https://bobzchemist.wordpress.com/2015/08/20/a-guide-to-understanding-and-mixing-thickeners/
Chemist77

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August 20, 2015 at 3:20 am

@Bobzchemist thats great, just awesome.
Bobzchemist

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August 20, 2015 at 3:20 am

https://bobzchemist.wordpress.com/2015/08/20/clariant-surfactant-brochure/ 
OldPerry

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August 20, 2015 at 12:38 pm

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Bobzchemist

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August 20, 2015 at 2:00 pm

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Bobzchemist

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August 20, 2015 at 2:03 pm

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Chemist77

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August 20, 2015 at 3:52 pm

Thanks @Bobzchemist, it helps to read views of ppl like you.
luiscuevasii

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August 21, 2015 at 12:18 am

Thanks you very much @Bobzchemist your help is always useful .