Keratine - how do you produce it?

Zahra

Member

March 14, 2022 at 3:45 pm

Perry said:

@Zahra - You should read this Types of cosmetic ingredients

Keratin is what I would call a “claims” ingredient. The strategy companies do is make a standard straightener, add a small amount of keratin and then call it a keratin hair straightener. But the keratin doesn’t really have much effect.

Hello Mr. Perry, thank you

Yes, keratin protein only seems to play a small role in my opinion.

Because above 15% makes hair brittle.

I have trouble in the manufacturing process of exactly what to combine with what.

For how long

Do I have to put keratin and cationic surfactants on the temperature and stir and then dry them and mix them with silicone and oil and other emollients or not? Is it another way or not …

I wanted to get help from Mr. Matt. You can introduce me to him. He has experience in this field.

Zahra

Member

March 14, 2022 at 4:01 pm

Abdullah said:

One hair straightening ingredient is formaldehyde that i think doesn’t have any alternative.

Another way is conditioner with silicones.

Hi, thanks

Yes, I know, but in making hair straighteners

This substance is not used in Brazilian keratins for hair straightening.

I have read in many articles that thioglycolic acid or glycolic acid or glyoxylic acid has been used instead.

Zahra

Member

March 16, 2022 at 3:35 am

Hi thanks

Can anyone really guide me through the construction process?

Zahra

Member

March 16, 2022 at 12:00 pm

Hello, thank you for your good comments

But to make a hair straightener using cationic surfactants, I do not know if a few surfactants are used, it should be a few percent in a total volume of 50 grams.

When I increase them, stickiness is created, when I use them less, it does not give the desired result.

Zahra

Member

March 16, 2022 at 12:06 pm

In your opinion

Hair straighteners

What surfactants are used instead of formaldehyde?

I have a problem with the production process

No one can help this process?

Abdullah

Member

March 16, 2022 at 1:47 pm

Zahra said:

Hello, thank you for your good comments

But to make a hair straightener using cationic surfactants, I do not know if a few surfactants are used, it should be a few percent in a total volume of 50 grams.

When I increase them, stickiness is created, when I use them less, it does not give the desired result.

Then don’t use more or less. Use the middle amount

Abdullah

Member

March 16, 2022 at 2:30 pm

Just be careful you don’t hurt yourself with your products or ingredients.

I know your situation right now.
I was in your situation when i started thinking about making cosmetic products.

Let’s make a few things clear

You don’t know anything right now. (With respect)

The products you make will be worse than any product in the market. Accept this fact

If you want to make a good product, study some reputable books in cosmetic or take a reputable course like the course from this website to make learning faster and easier for you.
Or purchase a good formula from an good chemist with a good price and save yourself a lot of time and money and everything.
There are a lot of good chemist here an most of them would sell you formula.

And last, try and test and try and test until you make something good. That is how we learn and improve.

I have made about 400 different versions of shampoo that was not as good as what i am currently making.
I have washed my hairs several times a day, several times to find out the long term effect of it faster.
Like this my other products.

Do don’t expect your first product sample to be the best for the next of your life.

Zahra

Member

March 16, 2022 at 6:03 pm

Abdullah said:

Just be careful you don’t hurt yourself with your products or ingredients.

I know your situation right now.
I was in your situation when i started thinking about making cosmetic products.

Let’s make a few things clear

You don’t know anything right now. (With respect)

The products you make will be worse than any product in the market. Accept this fact

If you want to make a good product, study some reputable books in cosmetic or take a reputable course like the course from this website to make learning faster and easier for you.
Or purchase a good formula from an good chemist with a good price and save yourself a lot of time and money and everything.
There are a lot of good chemist here an most of them would sell you formula.

And last, try and test and try and test until you make something good. That is how we learn and improve.

I have made about 400 different versions of shampoo that was not as good as what i am currently making.
I have washed my hairs several times a day, several times to find out the long term effect of it faster.
Like this my other products.

Do don’t expect your first product sample to be the best for the next of your life.

Hi thanks

But I have a master’s degree in organic chemistry myself.

I will try my best.

I used ingredients that are found in many cosmetic products

I also set the percentages based on the allowed percentages.

I am looking for a solution.

Do not seek comparison.

Thank you, I’m careful.

I work for a cosmetics company.

Zahra

Member

March 16, 2022 at 8:07 pm

Perry said:

@Zahra - You should read this Types of cosmetic ingredients
Keratin is what I would call a “claims” ingredient. The strategy companies do is make a standard straightener, add a small amount of keratin and then call it a keratin hair straightener. But the keratin doesn’t really have much effect.

Excuse me, of course

OldPerry

Member

March 16, 2022 at 8:31 pm

@Zahra - if you want help, list all the ingredients you are using, the percentages you are using, the manufacturing procedure you are following, and the problem you are having.

Without that information there is not much helpful advice people can give.

1Armand2

Member

March 16, 2022 at 11:52 pm

Abdullah said:

Just be careful you don’t hurt yourself with your products or ingredients.

I know your situation right now.
I was in your situation when i started thinking about making cosmetic products.

Let’s make a few things clear…

I’m sure she knows what she’s doing better than most of us because she has a master’s degree!

Zahra

Member

March 17, 2022 at 12:25 am

1Armand2 said:

Abdullah said:

Just be careful you don’t hurt yourself with your products or ingredients.

I’m sure she knows what she’s doing better than most of us because she has a master’s degree!

Hello

I did not say that because I have a master’s degree

I know better than anyone !!!! ??

Here are tips on various issues.

Because you have failed in some products. You say your products are worse than other products on the market.

I am currently a researcher and I need a lot of experience because I am new to cosmetics.

I asked you for guidance.

Thank you for your hope!

Zahra

Member

March 17, 2022 at 12:30 am

Zahra said:

Abdullah said:

Do don’t expect your first product sample to be the best for the next of your life.

Hi thanks

But I have a master’s degree in organic chemistry myself.

I will try my best.

I used ingredients that are found in many cosmetic products

I also set the percentages based on the allowed percentages.

I am looking for a solution.

Do not seek comparison.

Thank you, I’m careful.

I work for a cosmetics company.

I asked you for help because I work as a novice cosmetics researcher in a company.

I have been working for 16 months.

I did not receive a salary.

I have made many commitments to produce many products.

Zahra

Member

March 17, 2022 at 12:32 am

Zahra said:

Zahra said:

Abdullah said:

Do don’t expect your first product sample to be the best for the next of your life.

Hi thanks

But I have a master’s degree in organic chemistry myself.

I will try my best.

I used ingredients that are found in many cosmetic products

I also set the percentages based on the allowed percentages.

I am looking for a solution.

Do not seek comparison.

Thank you, I’m careful.

I work for a cosmetics company.

I read a lot on beauty sites and books.

Zahra

Member

March 17, 2022 at 12:36 am

I read a lot on beauty sites and books.

I read many articles to get each product.

I asked a question because I was skeptical about a certain percentage of the materials and the manufacturing process.

Zahra

Member

March 17, 2022 at 12:39 pm

Abdullah said:

Just be careful you don’t hurt yourself with your products or ingredients.

I know your situation right now.
I was in your situation when i started thinking about making cosmetic products.

Let’s make a few things clear …

Hello, thank you for your help

I try like you

I tried so hard

Because the material money is not from me, it belongs to the company, they reduce their loss from me.

I also studied chemistry.

But in our country, like in European countries, chemistry is not taught properly in many universities.

Pattsi

Member

March 18, 2022 at 8:46 am

https://www.ulprospector.com/documents/1037273.pdf?bs=1375&b=120823&st=20&r=asia&ind=personalcare

https://www.ulprospector.com/documents/1570364.pdf?bs=33091&b=987498&st=20&r=asia&ind=personalcare

You can start from these free formulas, there’re also manufacturing processes in there.

I’m sorry, this is the extent limit I can help as we might be direct competitor in the near future.

Perry said:

@Zahra - if you want help, list all the ingredients you are using, the percentages you are using, the manufacturing procedure you are following, and the problem you are having.

Without that information there is not much helpful advice people can give.

As Perry said, if you don’t provide information or problem you are having, other members would not be able to give much help.

Zahra

Member

March 18, 2022 at 10:11 am

Pattsi said:

https://www.ulprospector.com/documents/1037273.pdf?bs=1375&b=120823&st=20&r=asia&ind=personalcare

https://www.ulprospector.com/documents/1570364.pdf?bs=33091&b=987498&st=20&r=asia&ind=personalcare

You can start from these free formulas, there’re also manufacturing processes in there.

I’m sorry, this is the extent limit I can help as we might be direct competitor in the near future.

Perry said:

@Zahra - if you want help, list all the ingredients you are using, the percentages you are using, the manufacturing procedure you are following, and the problem you are having.

Without that information there is not much helpful advice people can give.

As Perry said, if you don’t provide information or problem you are having, other members would not be able to give much help.

Hi, thanks

But I can not be your rival because there is so much distance between us!

I joined this association to open a way for me and others in trouble.

Zahra

Member

March 18, 2022 at 11:11 am

Zahra said:

Zahra said:

Pattsi said:

https://www.ulprospector.com/documents/1037273.pdf?bs=1375&b=120823&st=20&r=asia&ind=personalcare

https://www.ulprospector.com/documents/1570364.pdf?bs=33091&b=987498&st=20&r=asia&ind=personalcare

You can start from these free formulas, there’re also manufacturing processes in there.

I’m sorry, this is the extent limit I can help as we might be direct competitor in the near future.

Perry said:

@Zahra - if you want help, list all the ingredients you are using, the percentages you are using, the manufacturing procedure you are following, and the problem you are having.

Without that information there is not much helpful advice people can give.

As Perry said, if you don’t provide information or problem you are having, other members would not be able to give much help.

Hi, thanks

But I can not be your rival because there is so much distance between us!

I joined this association to open a way for me and others in trouble.

I can not enter this site

Our company does not have email.

Not even with my email.

Thank you

I can not enter this site

Our company does not have email.

Not even with my email.

Thank you

Pattsi

Member

March 19, 2022 at 11:33 am

لا تعتقد لا عربي أو مصري أنا؟

Zahra

Member

March 19, 2022 at 12:58 pm

Pattsi said:

Hi, thanks

No, I do not think you are Egyptian or Arab

I am not an Arab either

Zahra

Member

March 19, 2022 at 1:05 pm

Zahra said:

Zahra said:The content of the photos is not legible for me.

Pattsi said:

© as in the pictures.

لا تعتقد لا عربي أو مصري أنا؟

Hi, thanks

No, I do not think you are Egyptian or Arab

I am not an Arab either

You can resend photos. The second photo is not very clear.

Zahra

Member

March 20, 2022 at 6:44 pm

Hi thanks

Ingredient:

Collagen protein 4.6 g

Hydrolyzed keratin protein 4.5 g

Cysteine 0.53 g

Polyvinyl alcohol 0.11 g

Polyvinyl pyrrolidone 0.5 g

2 drops of glycolic acid

3 drops of glyoxylic acid

Polydimethylsiloxane 5 cc

Dimethicone 2 cc

Dimethicone 350 ……. 3 cc

Amo Dimethicone 5.5 cc

Elastomeric silicon 9045 …… 1 cc

Hydroxyethyl cellulose 0.5 g

Disodium 0.1 g

Water 15 cc

Ethyl hexyl glycerol 0.64 g

Tocopherol acetate 0.37 g

Polysorbate 0.3 g

Polyquaternium 6 …… 0.4 g

Phenoxyethanol 0.5 g

Cetyl stearyl alcohol 0.7 g

Stearate -20. …… 0.6 g

Butter object butter 2 g

Dexpanthenol 2.7 g

Stainless alcohol 0.8 g

I set the aqueous phase at 80 ° C.

Place the silicones at 110 ° C after dropping the temperature to 80 ° C

Place the oil phase at 80 ° C

After a while

Mix the phases together.

But when applied to the hair, it does not give much result.

The hair is up to 40% smooth and soft.
Zahra March 18

I have synthesized about 75 types of hair straighteners, but the results are almost the same

I also set the pH to 5.5 to 6

I do not know if the work process is difficult or not?
Zahra March 18

Zahra

Member

March 20, 2022 at 6:45 pm

ZahraMarch 18

I think I reduced the amount of cationic surfactants because the static electricity charge in the hair was not neutralized.

On the other hand, I wanted to use non-ionic and amphoteric surfactants.

What do you think could be the problem?

Zahra

Member

March 20, 2022 at 6:46 pm