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  • How i can thicken my Formula ?

    Posted by express2025 on July 10, 2015 at 8:14 pm

    Hello …
    i am working to formulate Sulfate and Sodium Chloride Free Shampoo using this ingredient :
     Aqua

    Sodium C14-16 Olefin
    Sulphonate

    Polyquaternum 7

    Panthenol

    Polyquaternium 10

    Hydroxy Propyl Guar

    Oil

    PEG 6 Caprylic /Capric

    Hydrolysed wheat germ

    PEG 7 Glyceryl Cocoat

    Coccamide Di Eithanol Amine 

     Glycol Di Stearate

    DiSodium EDTA

    Citric Acid

    Methylisothiazolinone

    The Problem is :
    How i Can thicken my formula in the way that give Shampoo pouring properties
     i was tried to use :
    Aculyn 88  But the Problem is Gelly Like pouring and this polymer used at pH not suitable for Shampoo

    Any suggestion for thickening this formula or General Edit to this ingredient ??

    belassi replied 8 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Kittykittykitty

    Member
    July 10, 2015 at 10:40 pm

    I would start with your ‘cocamide DEA’ in your formulation. Cocamide DEA is going to be banned, soon.  

    AOS would be your problem. It’s not too easy to thicken or work with.

    Try a peg 175 or maybe you can look at guar gum. Honestly, though, if you’re having jelly issues, you may have used too much Aculyn 88.

  • Chirag

    Member
    July 11, 2015 at 10:31 am

    Express2025 have u tried CAPB ? I rhink you would get desired thickness through capb

  • express2025

    Member
    July 11, 2015 at 7:20 pm

    Kittykittykitty
    thank u . actually i will get out CDEA  , but the problem still present Aculyn 88 not work will in my formula

  • express2025

    Member
    July 11, 2015 at 7:21 pm

    Chirag
    to get the desired thickness using CAPB i will be out of Recommended Limit

  • belassi

    Member
    July 11, 2015 at 7:27 pm

    1. CAPB will not work, it is a salt thickener used to thicken anionic shampoo.

    2. The Aculyn i have no experience with but looking at its description it appears similar to a carbomer and that is usually a crappy way to thicken shampoo because of (a) entrapped bubbles (b) difficult to dispense into the container (c) short-flow sensorials seem likely.
    We’ve been through this over and over on this forum; I suggest you take a look at earlier posts about this topic.
  • express2025

    Member
    July 11, 2015 at 7:49 pm

    Belassi
    thank u so much Actually what you say is what i was funded in my experiments

  • belassi

    Member
    July 12, 2015 at 1:20 am

    You’re welcome. I went through a development cycle, personally, learning about sulphate/chloride free formulation. Thickening is the big issue to deal with. The most appropriate thickeners are luxurious but expensive; I use glucamate VLT as my primary thickener because it comes in a propanediol solution, which improves preservative efficiency; it improves foaming; it has luxurious, long-flow sensorials; it’s available from a local factor. It is a bit pricey but then, so is a properly designed sulphate/chloride free shampoo.

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