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  • How can I make a clear, but pH adjusted, shower gel with coco glucoside?

    Posted by sundae3 on June 15, 2023 at 5:32 pm

    I have:

    Coco glucoside
    distilled water
    hydroxyethylcellulose
    glycerin
    citric acid

    i have various other materials which I don’t think or know if they would be helpful, like carrageenan, xanthan gum, some oils and waxes, etc

    but I don’t have any surfactants other than coco g for the time being, planning to get other ones.

    is it possible at all to make a clear shower gel with what I have?

    citric acid makes the coco glucoside turn white, is there another way I can pH adjust the mixture without the coco glucoside turning white?

    ketchito replied 12 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
  • 6 Replies
  • Abdullah

    Member
    June 15, 2023 at 10:59 pm

    No. Glucoside is not compatible with hec

    • sundae3

      Member
      June 16, 2023 at 6:55 am

      really? why not? i’ve seen recipes using both of those, why would they not work together?

      • Abdullah

        Member
        June 16, 2023 at 7:18 am

        I don’t know why but you can test it for your self.

        Glucoside melts hec

        • sundae3

          Member
          June 16, 2023 at 7:19 am

          thanks

  • mikethair

    Member
    June 16, 2023 at 3:13 am

    <div>In my opinion, you will find incompatibilities among your set of ingredients.</div><div>

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    My approach was to saponify coconut oil to produce Potassium Cocoate. In our manufacturing facility, we produced this shampoo base for 20+ years. We used this base to produce shampoo for brands globally. It was just a matter of adding essential and other oils to meet client requirements.

    And what attracted brands was that the shampoo was synthetic free, and worked.

    Contact me if you want to know more.

    Kind regards,

    Dr. Mike Thair

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  • ketchito

    Member
    June 16, 2023 at 9:04 am

    @sundae3 As @Abdullah mentioned, it’s hard to get a stable product using a Glucoside surfactant and HEC. If you still want to try, you could add some base after HEC (which should be added first and let hydrate) to help dissolve its envelope, and then add coco glucoside…and see how it goes, but there’s not much hope based on experience. Don’t you have any anionic surfactant around?

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