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    Posted by imad76 on July 25, 2015 at 1:52 pm

    hi  ,i  am  Imad   a  hair colorist  from  Lebanon  .  my  question ;  i 
    always  try  to  color  bleached  hair  a  white  color . normal  toner 
    for  hair   are  not  very  effective  ,  i  tried      titanium
    dioxide  [ dont know the  particle size]   but   did  nothing  .  is 
    there  a  way  or  another  titanium  [nano size] will  work ?  or  any  WHITE  [pigment.  dye or ???]    that  could  be  absorbed  by  hair and resist  washing   . thanks

    Bobzchemist replied 8 years, 9 months ago 4 Members · 10 Replies
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  • imad76

    Member
    July 29, 2015 at 7:52 am

  • Bill_Toge

    Member
    July 29, 2015 at 8:01 am

    what you need is a purple toning shampoo, to cancel out the yellow tones in bleached hair, leaving it silver/white

    this product is an excellent example
  • imad76

    Member
    July 29, 2015 at 8:15 am

    Hi  Bill  ,it  looks  you  misunderstood  me ,  i  know  about   all  purple  shampoos .   i am  asking  about   WHITE  [ ONLY WHITE ]     .   in  the  market   there’s  some   white  toners  or   dyes  but   it  is  not  concentrated  and  fades  quickly  ,   so  im  searching   about   that  white  concentrate ingredient    only

  • Ayla

    Member
    July 29, 2015 at 2:47 pm

    You want a white permanent colour ?

     

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    July 29, 2015 at 3:00 pm

    As far as I know, there is no pigment that can be absorbed by hair. The best you can do is create a water-resistant/waterproof film with well dispersed pigments to adhere to the hair shaft - essentially, makeup for hair.

    Be careful about waterproof formulas, though - it’s important that they also come back off without too much trouble.
  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    July 29, 2015 at 3:02 pm

    I’m also unaware of anything that could be considered a white dye. Since white is the absence of color as far as dyes are concerned, if you can’t do this with bleach, you’re stuck with using pigments.

  • Bill_Toge

    Member
    July 29, 2015 at 7:03 pm

    @Bobzchemist I don’t know of any white oxidative dyes either; they tend to be dull and dark in colour, as the base and the couplers often form ill-defined mixtures of oligomers rather than single products

    and base/coupler combinations which give single products result in sharp, bright colours (e.g. red, pink, orange) rather than white

    based on what I know about photochemistry, if you want to create a genuine white dye or oxidative pigment you’d need some incredibly wide absorption and emission bands, and an outrageously odd molecular structure; it’d probably make a good Ph.D project, but at this moment in time it just doesn’t exist in reality

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    July 30, 2015 at 1:47 pm

    There are a number of ways to make a flexible, permanent pigmented coating - but the catch is that it will be truly permanent - there will be no way to take it off at all. I would proceed with extreme caution on this project.

  • imad76

    Member
    August 3, 2015 at 7:19 am

    @Bobzchemist       Hi   Bob  ,  what   do  you mean  about  water-resistant/waterproof
    film? is  there  something  specific ?  and  about  the dispersed
    pigments , which  white  pigment  do  you  advise  ?  thank  you .         

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    August 3, 2015 at 3:52 pm

    Use TiO2 for a white pigment. Search for mascara formulas to get a starting point. 

    Be aware that a formula like this will not be restricted to the hair follicles - it will color everything it touches.

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