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  • Formulation Issue

    Posted by Lenar on December 31, 2023 at 9:07 am

    I am currently facing an issue with our basic cream emulsion, Despite incorporating an appropriate amount of fragrance, there persists an unpleasant raw material odor, akin to a plastic smell. Can you help me with solutions and strategies for improving the fragrance profile of our basic cream emulsion?

    PhilGeis replied 2 days, 18 hours ago 6 Members · 14 Replies
  • 14 Replies
  • mikethair

    Member
    December 31, 2023 at 7:21 pm

    Firstly, does your cream have an unpleasant odour before adding fragrance?

    Can you provide more details about the fragrance you using?

    • Lenar

      Member
      January 19, 2024 at 12:29 pm

      thank you for your reply.

      the cream have a strong smell from the raw materials.

      cetyl alcohol, cetearyl alcohol, shea butter, almond oil, span 60, glycerin…

      • mikethair

        Member
        January 19, 2024 at 3:41 pm

        The ingredients you mention are probably causing the smell you describe.

        But when you mention “incorporating an appropriate amount of fragrance” can you please describe (i) what fragrance and percentage used, and (ii) your production method including how and when the fragrance is added.

        • Lenar

          Member
          January 26, 2024 at 4:57 am

          The fragrance is added @ 40 C, 4%.

  • ketchito

    Member
    January 2, 2024 at 9:29 pm

    It would be useful if you list your ingredients (no percentages needed), to see if something in there could be the reason.

  • Shalu210397

    Member
    January 23, 2024 at 9:49 pm

    Hello Sir/Mam

    I am working on a trial batch of Cysteamine Hydrochloride Cream and serum (5%). The odour of cysteamine hydrochloride is very bad. How can I remove this bad odour? I added maltodextrin / Lactic Acid to get rid from this odour. Nothing is working. Please guide me on this.

    Thanks & Regards
    Shalu Rana

  • Nucurls

    Member
    February 28, 2024 at 5:25 am

    I’m so sorry to hijack this post but can’t for the life of me find out how to put a post up.

    I’m in need of help if anyone can give me some

    So I’m very new to formulating and have been trying different formulas for a curl gel but when I add the oil phase to my water phase it goes a creamy colour

    Water phase

    Water

    Aloe vera juice

    Vegetable glycerin

    Xantham gum

    Polysorbate 20

    Nancide

    Grapefruit extract

    Oil phase

    Jojoba oil

    Baobab oil

    Broccoli seed oil

    Vitamin e

    What am I doing wrong please help

    • PhilGeis

      Member
      March 1, 2024 at 9:00 am

      May or may not be important to your problem but that is a useless preservative system

      Nancide (assume Naticide) is a sham. If by “Grapefruit extract” you mean the seed extract, you’ve fallen for more BS.

      • Nucurls

        Member
        March 1, 2024 at 9:29 am

        Like I said I’m new to this

        I’m happy to listen to your opinions

        • PhilGeis

          Member
          March 1, 2024 at 3:29 pm

          What is your preservative policy? do you use formaldehyde releasers? parabens? And what is your pH?

  • ketchito

    Member
    February 28, 2024 at 5:46 am

    Gels don’t have oil phases (unless you are formulating a cream gel, which is a different type of product). If you want a crear gel, remove all your oily materiales, since you’re forming an emulsion (that’s why the white color). By the way, I don’t see any styling polymers in your formula.

    • Nucurls

      Member
      February 28, 2024 at 6:10 am

      Thank you so much for replying it means alot ketchito

      Yep definitely new to this , I wasn’t aware of oil not being in gel formulations my research on different curly hair gels do have oils in them ( grapeseed oil &hydrolyzed protiens)

      I do have a PVP/VA copolymer

      Would that work in this formulation if I took out the oil based products

      Many thanks

      • ketchito

        Member
        February 28, 2024 at 6:13 am

        No worries. Probably the products you saw put just few drops of oils, enough so polysorbate 20 would solubilize them. Good you’re using PV/VA copolymer. You could add some PVP if you want more fixation (but not so much, since it’s very hygroscopic).

        • Nucurls

          Member
          February 28, 2024 at 6:25 pm

          I really appreciate your help and the time out you took to answer my questions.

          Do u offer formulation help at all

          Many thanks

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