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  • Flavor & Fragrance in Liquid Lipstick

    Posted by abh032000 on July 17, 2019 at 5:17 pm

    Hi All! My formula for liquid lipstick is almost complete and super stoked. One last problem is the taste and smell of the product is pretty horrid. I need to add a flavor/aroma that will mask the taste and smell of it. Are there any natural products to do this? I don’t want any strong flavors, just a hint of it so mask the offenses.  Thanks for the help!

    Sponge replied 5 years, 2 months ago 5 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Pharma

    Member
    July 17, 2019 at 7:15 pm
    What’s in it that causes the stench? You’re hopefully not using rancid oils?
    Certain smells can be neutralised by adjusting pH, others may be masked using cyclodextrins, silica or certain clays.
    Apart from that, lemony flavours are often used to mask smell but I can imagine that they won’t help as good against the off-taste.
  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    July 18, 2019 at 11:39 am

    I think you should post your formula and have it reviewed. Some products, such as conditioners do have pretty unpleasant smell until you add fragrance, but lipsticks are not one of those.

  • abh032000

    Member
    July 19, 2019 at 2:21 am

    Pharma said:

    What’s in it that causes the stench? You’re hopefully not using rancid oils?
    Certain smells can be neutralised by adjusting pH, others may be masked using cyclodextrins, silica or certain clays.
    Apart from that, lemony flavours are often used to mask smell but I can imagine that they won’t help as good against the off-taste.

    I think it’s a resin that we’re using that’s causing the smell. Any ideas? Thanks!

  • Pharma

    Member
    July 19, 2019 at 5:41 am

    I think you should post your formula and have it reviewed.

    Look at this, that’s my idea too! 😉

  • abh032000

    Member
    July 21, 2019 at 7:44 pm

    Pharma said:

    I think you should post your formula and have it reviewed.

    Look at this, that’s my idea too! 😉

    hahaha, I unfortunately don’t have the entire formula yet either..what about if there’s any high intensity oil solubles natural sweetners?

  • Pharma

    Member
    July 21, 2019 at 8:48 pm

    abh032000 said:

    high intensity oil solubles natural sweetners?

    Ehh?? A what?

  • abh032000

    Member
    July 23, 2019 at 2:33 pm

    Pharma said:

    abh032000 said:

    high intensity oil solubles natural sweetners?

    Ehh?? A what?

    A natural sweetener that won’t dissipate in high temps like stevia? 

  • Sibech

    Member
    July 23, 2019 at 2:56 pm

    abh032000 said:

    hahaha, I unfortunately don’t have the entire formula yet either..what about if there’s any high intensity oil solubles natural sweetners?

    Well, you don’t have the entire formula yet, otherwise, you wouldn’t need to adjust it right now at all. You really should listen to Pharma and Ngarayeva001 and post the formula (in its current state) with INCI names (and possibly tradenames) and their percentages. Your current process should be added too so people can see if you’re making some odd choices that could increase any off-taste.

  • Pharma

    Member
    July 23, 2019 at 7:36 pm
    An oil soluble natural sweetener? You sure? Cause AFAIK all natural sweeteners are highly water soluble. Probably you consider enoxolone (aka glycyrrhetic acid) a sweetener although it’s no longer sweet as compared to glycyrrhizin…
    But since you write in riddles I’m aouta here, sorry pal.
  • abh032000

    Member
    July 23, 2019 at 8:15 pm

    Pharma said:

    An oil soluble natural sweetener? You sure? Cause AFAIK all natural sweeteners are highly water soluble. Probably you consider enoxolone (aka glycyrrhetic acid) a sweetener although it’s no longer sweet as compared to glycyrrhizin…
    But since you write in riddles I’m aouta here, sorry pal.

    I’m sorry I’m not a chemist, I’m just trying to help out the actual chemist who don’t have access to this so I’m trying my best haha. But thank you for the help and suggestions! I know, I suck at this that’s why I had to hire a chemist! :( 

  • Pharma

    Member
    July 23, 2019 at 8:48 pm

    What weird kind of arrangement do you have with your cosmetic chemist that he’s got a problem he can’t solve and when you try to help him out (he should pay YOU instead LoL), he tells you shit…

  • Sponge

    Member
    July 25, 2019 at 4:53 pm

    abh032000 said:

    Pharma said:

    An oil soluble natural sweetener? You sure? Cause AFAIK all natural sweeteners are highly water soluble. Probably you consider enoxolone (aka glycyrrhetic acid) a sweetener although it’s no longer sweet as compared to glycyrrhizin…
    But since you write in riddles I’m aouta here, sorry pal.

    I’m sorry I’m not a chemist, I’m just trying to help out the actual chemist who don’t have access to this so I’m trying my best haha. But thank you for the help and suggestions! I know, I suck at this that’s why I had to hire a chemist! :( 

    Your chemist doesn’t have the internet? (You’re gonna need to post everything you can like Pharma, ngarayeva001 and Sibech said.)

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