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  • Do I need to use a chelator?

    Posted by Margaret2 on January 15, 2019 at 10:38 pm

    The calcium content of our local water supply is 5.45 ppm (mg/L).  The magnesium is 0.87 ppm (mg/L).

    Do I REALLY need to use disodium EDTA with such soft water for formulating lotions, creams, shampoo?

    The USGS states 0-60 ppm calcium is soft. So, it looks like my tap water is super duper soft. ?

    Thanks for your responses.

    Margaret2 replied 5 years, 4 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • belassi

    Member
    January 15, 2019 at 11:00 pm

    And the other metals? Iron for instance?

  • Margaret2

    Member
    January 16, 2019 at 2:50 am

    Calcium is 5.45 mg/L 
    Magnesium is 0.87 mg/L 

  • OldPerry

    Member
    January 17, 2019 at 2:57 pm

    Chelators are not used simply for hard water. They are also used to help improve the performance of your preservative system. There is no good reason not to use one.

  • Dirtnap1

    Member
    January 17, 2019 at 5:16 pm

    Agreed with Perry. It’s used in such small quantities anyways, might as well just add to the water.

  • Margaret2

    Member
    January 17, 2019 at 7:06 pm

    Ah!  I thought chelators are only to bind up minerals that bacteria use in their metabolic pathways. I can only order disodium EDTA from a place in WA state, and I’m in Canada, so…anytime I can avoid the expense of international ordering is “a good thing” (as Martha Stewart was fond of saying, apparently). 

    Merci buckets for your responses.

  • OldPerry

    Member
    January 17, 2019 at 7:26 pm

    The chelators actually interact with the microbe’s cell membrane and disrupt it which weakens the microbe and makes it more prone to being killed by the preservative.

  • Margaret2

    Member
    January 20, 2019 at 3:27 pm

    Rock on chelators AND Perry!  ?

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