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    Posted by David08848 on August 10, 2015 at 8:56 pm

    Folks,
    Since you were so kind to answer my other surfactant questions, I’ll ask another!
    I am considering using a “base” that contains disodium laureth sulfosuccinate, that also includes Isethionates, Taurates and CAPB and I am also considering coming up with my own formulas for body wash, bubble bath and eventually shampoo and am now considering using disodium laureth sulfosuccinate as a primary surfactant.  Any knowledge about this surfactant that you could share will be appreciated!

    Thanks again!
    David

    OldPerry replied 8 years, 9 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • thebrain

    Member
    August 11, 2015 at 12:27 am

    I’d start with this:
    http://swiftcraftymonkey.blogspot.com/2010/04/surfactants-sulfosuccinates.html

    And then read this before formulating or purchasing:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=B-27_lCJTx8C&pg=PA520&dq=Disodium+lauryl+sulfosuccinate+pH+stability&hl=en&sa=X&ei=AV9GVdj4MIubNuGFgJAO&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Disodium%20lauryl%20sulfosuccinate%20pH%20stability&f=false

    I’ve been experimenting with all kinds of surfactants, and I can’t say I’ve been very impressed with DLS, at least from a foaming/lather performance standpoint. I think there are better options; however, it could be that I just haven’t found the right synergy (e.g. DLS and SLSa are commonly combined).

  • David08848

    Member
    August 11, 2015 at 1:53 am

    Thanks for the suggestions!  I know Susan’s blog and have copied the complete blog to use for reference.  She does extensive research but is a hobbyist not a cosmetic chemist and I take that into consideration.  Still, I have found her blog useful and I admire her fearless approach to everything.  I also appreciate your observations.  I am looking for this kind of observation so I can pick and choose the right surfactants for my product. As I mentioned, it is the main surfactant in this base with taurates, isethionates and CAPB which should provide a lot of lather on their own.  There’s nothing like the advice of someone who has used it, though so thanks!  Any other experiences with this surfactant?

    Thanks again!
    David

  • OldPerry

    Member
    August 11, 2015 at 3:27 pm

    I haven’t used the base that you are talking about but in general I avoid base blends because it gives you less control over your formulation.  It also locks you in to a single supplier which can cause problems in the future.

  • David08848

    Member
    August 11, 2015 at 5:04 pm

    Perry,  You’ve got a good point there!  That’s why I was thinking of trying to formulate it myself as another option which is another reason I was going after some output on the individual components.  I was thinking of putting together a couple of lists of combinations I think might work if that is OK with you and posting it here.  I’m not looking for percentages and am eager to formulate it myself but would like some input about these combinations so I know whether I am on the right track!  Thanks to you and everyone for their input, it has meant a great deal to me!

    Thanks!
    David
    Stone Cottage Soapworks Inc.

  • OldPerry

    Member
    August 11, 2015 at 5:23 pm

    Sure, post away.

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