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  • Decyl Glucoside

    Posted by Lainee on October 17, 2017 at 1:10 am

    Does a little of Decyl Glucoside will make a lot of foam? I’m using it in my two-phased makeup remover and when I shake the bottle, the foam wont settle and stay as a foam between the water and oil phase.

    Here’s a rundown:

    A. Water-qs
    Glycerine-3
    Propylene Glycol-3
    EDTA-0.5
    TEA-0.5
    Euxyl PE-0.3
    Colorant-0.2

    B. Isododecane-15
    TSF 405-15
    Decyl Glucoside-0.3
    Fragrance-0.2

    Should I lower the % of Decyl? Should I heat the mixture? Should I mix it in the water phase? Im running out of options.

    Zink replied 5 years, 11 months ago 6 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Chemist77

    Member
    October 17, 2017 at 2:29 am

    Try one batch without it, should give you an idea. That TSF 405 foams too, and that could be the source as well since 15% is indeed a high dosage. 

  • Lainee

    Member
    October 17, 2017 at 3:03 am

    Really? I didnt know TSF 405 foams. Any alternative to the “oil phase”. Before, I used dimethicones but the feeling is warm when applied. So Ive come up with this. 

  • Lainee

    Member
    October 17, 2017 at 3:05 am

    I have tried without the surfactant. Didnt remove all of the water proof makeups. 

  • Chemist77

    Member
    October 17, 2017 at 3:35 am

    Well I have seen it in antiperspirants and similar products, again everything changes as per the formula. Have a knockout done with that formula of yours. 

  • Lainee

    Member
    October 17, 2017 at 9:03 am

    I have tried it but it didnt remove all the makeups. A cleansing agent will be good in makeup removers to remove all makeups, or so I thought? Plus when I shake it (to mix the water and oil phase), glittery-like stuff appears. I’ll upload a picture when I make one again. I just run out of raw materials. 

    There’s an ingredient to remove waterproof makeups. I’ve read it somewhere in an article. I forgot its name. It’s in the tip of my tongue and is giving me headache. Haha

    Oh I forgot, I’m using a surfactant/cleansing agent because my benchmark has a surfactant but it is the end of the ingredients list, so it has the least %, that is why I came up with that % of surfactant. My benchmark dont have a colorant and fragrance.

  • Chemist77

    Member
    October 17, 2017 at 12:27 pm

    A 20% dilution approximately of DC CE 0101 with other things thrown in should do the trick for you. Have used the same for my make up remover wipe solution. 

  • bill_toge

    Member
    October 19, 2017 at 1:09 am

    try using a cationic instead of decyl glucoside, and add it to the water phase

  • DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ

    Member
    October 19, 2017 at 3:39 am

    You only need a small amount of wetting agent,a nonionic like Span 80 replacing the DC in oil phase 

  • Belassi

    Member
    October 19, 2017 at 4:34 am

    If Bill’s idea works, you could try Lubrizol’s Dehyton AB1 which is CAPB but with an extra cation.

  • Lainee

    Member
    October 20, 2017 at 3:15 am

    @Bill_Toge why cationic?

  • bill_toge

    Member
    October 20, 2017 at 6:59 am

    @Lainee they generate a lot less foam than alkyl polyglucosides, and from my experience with two-phase mouthwash and makeup removers, they result in clean and prompt phase separation even when included at very low levels (i.e. < 0.1% w/w)

  • Lainee

    Member
    October 20, 2017 at 7:15 am

    how about nonionic surfactants ? 

  • Zink

    Member
    October 20, 2017 at 1:44 pm

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