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    Posted by AndrewSeel on September 8, 2020 at 12:28 pm

    what is the difference in performance between Cationic Guar and Polyquatrenium 10 in hair shampoo, which one will do build up? which one will give conditioning and moisturization more?

    AndrewSeel replied 3 years, 8 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • ketchito

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    September 8, 2020 at 3:55 pm

    @AndrewSeel That’s tricky. Generally speaking, Polyquaternium-10 might have higher deposition than Cationic guar, but it all depends on the charge density. Nowadays, you have Cationic guars of different charge densities (the higher the charge density, the more deposition). Also, Cationic guar is a bit easier to remove from hair than Polyquaternium-10. Keep in mind that they also help oils to deposit (like silicones), and on that, again PQ-10 performs a bit better than Cationic guar. One strategy to reduce chances of buil-up is to use both polymers instead of only one.  

  • AndrewSeel

    Member
    September 8, 2020 at 7:09 pm

    ketchito said:

    @AndrewSeel That’s tricky. Generally speaking, Polyquaternium-10 might have higher deposition than Cationic guar, but it all depends on the charge density. Nowadays, you have Cationic guars of different charge densities (the higher the charge density, the more deposition). Also, Cationic guar is a bit easier to remove from hair than Polyquaternium-10. Keep in mind that they also help oils to deposit (like silicones), and on that, again PQ-10 performs a bit better than Cationic guar. One strategy to reduce chances of buil-up is to use both polymers instead of only one.  

    You mean polyquatrenium 10 will not help in oil or silicon deposition on hair?

  • ketchito

    Member
    September 9, 2020 at 7:56 pm

    @AndrewSeel No, I meant that PQ-10 performs a bit better than CGuar at depositing oils/silicones. There’s a very nice Dow Corning study about that (http://www.nononsensecosmethic.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/silicones-deposition-on-hairs.pdf).

  • AndrewSeel

    Member
    September 10, 2020 at 6:36 pm

    ketchito said:

    @AndrewSeel No, I meant that PQ-10 performs a bit better than CGuar at depositing oils/silicones. There’s a very nice Dow Corning study about that (http://www.nononsensecosmethic.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/silicones-deposition-on-hairs.pdf).

    Very helpful thank you

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