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CO2 lift -algae mask formulation?
Does anyone have experience with the formulation of a 2-step algae mask?
Similar to the CO2 lift mask on the market:
https://co2lift.com/collections/co2lift-products/
One pouch contains sodium alginate, magnesium carbonate, calcium chloride, xanthan gum, aloe, carbomer and others.
Second pouch contains the acid gluconolactone.
Acid + magnesium carbonate increases CO2 which benefits skin.
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How do you know increased CO2 benefits skin? in what way?
You could get the same result with vinegar and baking soda, though I wouldn’t recommend putting that on the skin. I’ve worked with alginates, but I’m confused what your question is
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@EVchem - Good question. Is Global Warming good for skin?
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I thought oxygen was good for skin, cosmetic industry pushed that wisdom for a long time (maybe as early as the ’60, could that be?).Maybe I understand why CO2 should be good for skin: Oxygen = respiration = radicals and oxidative damage = ageing and problems. Block oxidative respiration with CO2 = problem solved. Putting a plastic bag over your head would do the same job for free and it could be re-used several times. Not by you and I’m not sure if someone else would want to use that bag after such a BS treatment (BS stands for Beauty Suffocation, the solution for all wrinkles, pale or grey skin tone, hair loss, and all other age related issues). :smiley: -
Perry-You said the same words I said when I heard about this new trend in skin care.
Recent reference in a dermatology journal:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26355616/
At first view, I was highly skeptical of how CO2 could provide skin benefits but I keep an open mind since the visible results from the use of an alginate mask have been impressive.
Pharma and EVchem-Can someone with expertise in the formulation of alginate masks help me with a CO2 mask formulation?
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Pharma-I enjoyed reading your view. Goes to show you how much we really know about life in general let alone the products that we use intended to benefit us. I salute you.
The body has a window of homeostasis for every substance-too little or too much will result in harmful consequences. Fortunately, we have evolved and employ mechanisms to be able to adapt to return to homeostasis.
Too much or too little oxygen or CO2 or anything can be detrimental or beneficial to our health depending on many factors such as time of exposure, etc.
Short bursts of any substance (or lack of a substance) that alters our homeostasis will lead to stress that results in preconditioning metabolic events that can either be harmful for the weak or beneficial for the strong to survive.
The dose and the time of exposure (and many other factors to name) creates the healthy event or the poison!
Getting back to CO2-any tips with the mask formulation
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Hmmm…. it’s a weird product since alginate mixed with calcium salts will instantaneously gel. Meaning that mixing pouch 1 with water wouldn’t create a gel weren’t it for the presence of xanthan and carbomer.Once you add gluconolactone, this one will gradually degrade to form gluconic acid and hence lowers pH. This in turn will render calcium alginate soluble and hence, de-gels alginate. The now more liquid product (I suppose it’s less of a gel than more of a suspension-like thing of tiny slimy grains) ‘frees’ magnesium carbonate precipitates. Once these precipitates are free, they get to react with gluconic acid to form CO2. This time delay allows for enough time to mix and results in a slow release of CO2. Without the slow release, you’d have an effervescent powder or acidulated mineral water.If you have the means to dry a liquid or wet powder, then I’d have an idea how to best prepare pouch 1. Without proper drying possibilities… it might get uncomfortable (either sticky lumps, alcohol vapours, or a too fast reaction upon mixing 1 with 2). During my studies, we still used to prepare effervescent powders for training (though they weren’t in use any longer) where we used anhydrous ethanol and let that evaporate over night. Not a wise idea without proper ventilation. Freeze or spray drying would be better.
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Pharma—thanks for your input. Very interesting and helpful -you answered some of my major questions.
Would it be possible for us to speak on the phone?
If so, please do not hesitate to contact me when you are free any afternoon or evening.
Lee
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When do you have afternoon? It’s summer, so here in Switzerland we’re on Central European Time.
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Pharma-Are you able to meet with Skype? If so, please invite me (Skype ID: leerez49) and provide a date and time that is best for you. I am on EST in Miami.
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Pharma-If you are prefer to arrange a Zoom meeting, I am OK using Zoom too.
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Pharma-I emailed you
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