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  • Cetyl Alcohol and Stearyl Alcohol Ratio in conditioner!!! HELP!!!

    Posted by nhatnguyen10 on August 23, 2022 at 2:43 pm

    Hi,
     I am new here and hope everyone can help me with this conditioner formula I currently formulating! 
    My target is 5 percent of total cetyl and stearyl alcohol in my rinse off conditioner. 
    I am looking for cetyl and stearyl alcohol ratio 4:1 
    Is this too much cetyl alcohol for women conditioner? 
    thank you and I am open to hear any feedback from anyone 🙂 

    Anna_Maria replied 1 year, 9 months ago 3 Members · 7 Replies
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  • OldPerry

    Member
    August 23, 2022 at 3:59 pm

    That sounds like a reasonable amount.

  • nhatnguyen10

    Member
    August 23, 2022 at 8:31 pm

    Perry said:

    That sounds like a reasonable amount.

    Thank you so much! 

    Can you advise? When should i use more stearyl alcohol? 
    Ratio 4: 1 stearyl alcohol to cetyl alcohol

    And when should I use more Cetyl Alcohol?

    thank you for your time and answer! 

  • OldPerry

    Member
    August 23, 2022 at 10:35 pm

    There is no definitive rule. Usually, people use more stearyl alcohol than cetyl because it has a higher melting point so will be more stable under warm storage conditions. But every system is different. You just have to experiment & see what works for you

  • nhatnguyen10

    Member
    August 25, 2022 at 6:47 pm

    Perry said:

    There is no definitive rule. Usually, people use more stearyl alcohol than cetyl because it has a higher melting point so will be more stable under warm storage conditions. But every system is different. You just have to experiment & see what works for you

    Thank you for your answer!!!

  • Anna_Maria

    Member
    August 26, 2022 at 4:57 am

    are you being able to have a good texture with these quantities without adding any cellulose or gums? @nhatnguyen10

  • nhatnguyen10

    Member
    August 26, 2022 at 6:29 pm

    are you being able to have a good texture with these quantities without adding any cellulose or gums? @nhatnguyen10

    I didnt make it yet, i need to hear some expert opinions or experience or mistake before start working on it. 

    Do you have any recommendations Or experience with it?
    Thank you!
  • Anna_Maria

    Member
    August 29, 2022 at 10:18 am

    are you being able to have a good texture with these quantities without adding any cellulose or gums? @nhatnguyen10

    I didnt make it yet, i need to hear some expert opinions or experience or mistake before start working on it. 

    Do you have any recommendations Or experience with it?
    Thank you!

    I couldn’t reach a good texture with only cetyl and stearyl total 5% i had to add tylose to have a good texture 

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