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fareloz
MemberJune 7, 2023 at 5:42 am in reply to: Number of hours your deo lasts (to write on the label)Usually they say UP TO 24h, which means any value but not longer than 24. If you put up to 100000 hours it is still valid, no matter how long it lasts.
Another option is 24 hors *, where the star is “instrumental test” on the back of the label, but what kind of test - not sure. I guess it doesn’t really matter and can be any stupid test
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Sucrose is the scientific name for table sugar. Table sugar attracts bees and bugs.
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Not a professional from the field.
As a customer I like fragrance free products, like serums, creams, lotions etc. BUT deodorizing body spray I expect to be fragranced, the format kinda implies it should contain one in my opinion
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Reduce glycerine or add some silicones
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The cooling effect is usually provided by menthol, but I don’t know if it is safe to use around eyes (although it is used in intimate lubes, so probably menthol is safe).
Another option could be Lecigel. Seppic claims it gives cooling effect to skin when applied
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Not a chemist by as I understand any organic acid will react with metal ions? I mean coffee machine descales are usually citric or lactic acid. Also Citric acid is usually mentioned as weak chelator.
There is an option of Sodium phytate, not sure if it can be used at low pH, but lotioncrafter says it works under pH < 6: https://lotioncrafter.com/products/sodium-phytate
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Pure ascorbic acid can react with niacinamide under low pH giving yellow Niacinamide Ascorbate: https://skincarewithfriends.com/niacinamide-and-vitamin-c-derivatives-conflict/
But Ascorbyl Glucoside is not pure Ascorbic acid and is formulated at close to neutral pH, so I don’t see any reasons they can’t be combined
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fareloz
MemberJune 1, 2023 at 4:59 am in reply to: Should Polysorbate 80 solve my separation issue?1. It is impossible to answer without knowing your FULL formula
2. 10% polysorbate will give foaming. It is a surfactant after all. Usually used to solubilize a SMALL amount of oil soluble ingredients (extracts). In high amount it gives unpleasant foamy feeling.
3. PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil is somewhat more aesthetically pleasant
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As an owner of oily skin type I can say ANY occlusion may cause increased number of pimples. So you should not worry about that, usually natural oils and butter are more acne-prone than synthetic inert materials.
When it comes to Dimethicone and Petrolatum I would vote for the latter. Dimethicone leaves a noticeable film and it can peel. Many people with oily skin type don’t like silicone feeling on the skin (personal observation).
In terms of marketing both ingredients are demonized on the Internet, no win if you use one or another.
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fareloz
MemberMay 28, 2023 at 5:00 am in reply to: Irritation issues with emulsified body butter inspired by humblebeeandmeYou made an acidic product, no wonder it stings at sensitive areas
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Some oils have some volatile silicone mixed in which allows to decrease oil content and improve spreadability of the product. Thinner film - less greasy
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The sediment is most likely Salicylic Acid. It is almost insoluble in water.
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Not a chemists, but usually I see next answer pattern on the forum: anionic surfactant, amphoteric surfactant, quats and silicone (dimethicone or amodimethicone).
I guess you are missing silicones in the formula
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fareloz
MemberMarch 31, 2023 at 10:09 am in reply to: Daily exfoliating ingredient in a hydrating face serumIn my view exfoliation is always kinda irritation, no?
Glycolic acid will not do much under high pH. What about enzymes (papain, bromelain)? They are usually used for sensitive skin or in summer products.
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Sorry for hijacking the question, but what is the purpose of bi-phase systems? Is it just a marketing story or some formulas really work great as bi-phase products?
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Maybe PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil?
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No, silicones are not soluble in water. You need to emulsify them. Dimethicone should be fine
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Not as available for DIY as plain Urea, but you could try to search it’s trade name - Hydrovance
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If we make a new batch of the same size and mix it with the original one we will have a double-size batch with averaged percentages. I mean if you take 1g of 10% solution and mix it with 1g 20% solution you will get 2 grams of (10+20)/2 = 15% solution.
The equation is: (original + adjusting) / 2 = target
We know original solution, we know target solution. We can mark adjusting solution as x (y,z, etc) and create an equation. Let’s make one for water (I guess it is the first ingredient):
(64.4 + x) / 2 = 37.9
You need to solve this equation and you will find the numbers:
64.4 + x = 37.9 * 2
x = 37.9 * 2 - 64.4 == target * 2 - original
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Some guy said: “Fake statement requires 5 mins to claim, but debunking requires hours”. Fearmongering is being sold profitably that’s why we have all these “natural”, “organic” etc. It is much easier to use different preservative than fight with all the articles and people on the internet.
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…also it is not as regulated as SA
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It explicitely says except body lotion. You want to make a foot cream. So it falls under (b). The reason body lotions can’t have 2% is because much bigger surface area. Face cream can because face is much smaller -> less product applied and less SA absorbed. Body is much bigger area -> more product applied and more SA absorbed potentially causing poisoning.
Foot cream has small area and it is not body lotion, so it is (B)
Also, you can swap some of SA with Sodium Salicylate
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Does it stay neutralized if the pH is low around 3.5?
pKa is a pH value under which an acid is 50% free and 50% is “neutralized” or better to say is a conjugated base.
pKa of Salicylic Acid is 2.97. So if your solution has pH 2.97 - 50% of added acid is free and 50% is a conjugated base. The higher pH - the less free acid and more conjugated base.
Under pH 3.5 around 23% of added SA is free and 77% is conjugated base (in your case it is Sodium Salicylate).
So “neutralization” is not some point, it is continuous along pH scale. The higher pH - the less free acid and wise versa.
Would that counteract the neutralization from the sodium lactate?
When you mix SA with Sodium Lactate some part of SA replaces Lactic Acid in Sodium Lactate and becomes Sodium Salicylate (+ released Lactic Acid). Sodium Salicylate is highly soluble in water.
Adding more acids will lower pH and release some of SA. But since SA is not soluble in water it will crystalize.
I remember the study you mention, it is here https://www.researchgate.net/publication/44298504_Mixed-solvency_approach_-_Boon_for_solubilization_of_poorly_water-soluble_drugs
Would peg 400 be a better option
I don’t know. I use only PG. You should now worry that much about neutralization. If you can make solution with right pH 3.0-3.5 with Sodium Lactate - that’s fine.