ToddZiegler69
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I have sodium carbomer too. I am going to try some samples this weekend I hope. I have been pretty busy with my regular job.
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Wow! Thank you very much for the reply. You must be a mind reader because I just ordered the aristoflex. I think they are going to work perfectly for what I need. I am going to try some sample batches this weekend. I got a pound of all 3 so I have enough for sampling. They are the three most expensive ingredients I have bought but I think they will pay for themselves.
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ngarayeva001 said:@ToddZiegler69 , the reason why I said Sepimax Zen, is that it’s very easy to work with, and you said “plant extracts”. Having limited information I thought some of them might be high in electrolytes and in that case Zen would be the best (and safest) choice. Also, even if this particular product won’t go well, you will find other applications for this ingredient, so your money won’t be wasted. If you use it for emulsion, add it to the oil phase. If you use it as a gel maker for a waterbased product, you might need to leave it to hydrate overnight. It’s very slippery and I prefer mixing it with sodium carbomer (for water-based gels), but it’s a matter of preference.
Have you tried this product Sepinov EMT 10 or know anything about it? I purchased this along with the Sepimax Zen. From the description the two seem to be similar to each other. What are your thoughts?
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bil7 said:Isopropyl myristate also works in thicken formulation and smooth oil feel touch also try liponates
Liponates is something that I have been looking at too. I am not in a hurry and I want to absorb as much information as possible before I do my first experimental batch. I have gotten some great advice so far.
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pccochran said:What is the purpose of your “topical cream”? If you are trying to penetrate the skin with a transdermal product, then oils would actually help you do that.
It is for helping with itchy dry skin and I think you are right. After thinking about it for a few days. I think I am going to use an oil. However I have not decided which oil or combination of oils I am going to try. I have 30 different oils and now I am doing a more in depth look at a few of my oils. Finding good scientific research vs. Hearsay is difficult.
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ToddZiegler69 said:ngarayeva001 said:@ToddZiegler69 , the reason why I said Sepimax Zen, is that it’s very easy to work with, and you said “plant extracts”. Having limited information I thought some of them might be high in electrolytes and in that case Zen would be the best (and safest) choice. Also, even if this particular product won’t go well, you will find other applications for this ingredient, so your money won’t be wasted. If you use it for emulsion, add it to the oil phase. If you use it as a gel maker for a waterbased product, you might need to leave it to hydrate overnight. It’s very slippery and I prefer mixing it with sodium carbomer (for water-based gels), but it’s a matter of preference.
That’s exactly what I thought when purchasing the Sepimax.
The extracts all come from the same supplier and all of the ingredients on their website say water, glycerin, and which ever plant that it is. I have asked the supplier to provide me with more information on their extraction process.
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Thanks for all of your help. I have been reading and studying for almost 2 years now and it is really paying off. Even though I still have a few questions every now and then.
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JonahRay said:@ToddZiegler69 Why not try some light esters instead of oils?
Esters is exactly what I was looking at today, so I think I am on the right track. However everyone else’s conformation makes me feel better about the investment in new ingredients and ways to go. I believe that I may be better off with the esters in other formulas.
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ngarayeva001 said:@ToddZiegler69 , the reason why I said Sepimax Zen, is that it’s very easy to work with, and you said “plant extracts”. Having limited information I thought some of them might be high in electrolytes and in that case Zen would be the best (and safest) choice. Also, even if this particular product won’t go well, you will find other applications for this ingredient, so your money won’t be wasted. If you use it for emulsion, add it to the oil phase. If you use it as a gel maker for a waterbased product, you might need to leave it to hydrate overnight. It’s very slippery and I prefer mixing it with sodium carbomer (for water-based gels), but it’s a matter of preference.
That’s exactly what I thought when purchasing the Sepimax.
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Gunther said:Even if you don’t have any oils, you still need an emulsifier to emulsify the water insoluble fatty alcohols or fatty acids (often needed to thicken the formula).
That’s what I was thinking too. I want to create a topical ointment but I have no desire to use an oil but I will if I need to. I was going to do two batches, one with Ecomulse and the other with Sepimax Zen, what would be your advice?
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ngarayeva001, I ordered some of the Sepimax Zen and got it a couple of days ago and I will try it this weekend. Are you psychic lol!
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Thanks for the reply Perry. I personally want to learn how to make cosmetics but you are spot on about being one or the other.
For now I believe that I am going to split the difference. I have noticed a lot of ingredient suppliers sell finished bases that can be used as is or tweaked just a little. We want to do some of it in house and the reason why, is that, when someone receives our assistance they are required to spend 20 hours over a six month period volunteering with the charity. Right now the recipients spend 1 to 3 hours a Saturday bottling or applying lables. I am going to definitely take your course as soon as possible.
For now I am going to spend some time looking through the chemists section to see if I can find a chemist that will fit our needs.
We are a new charity and we are still in the process of becoming a legal charity. What funds we have, come out of each founding members pocket. The only thing that we have in abundance right now is time and disire to succeed. We do have a plan and with your advice on how to proceed. I know we will succeed.
Is there anything you can recommend when choosing a chemist?
