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ok thanks i will try it out. Thank you heaps!

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Euxl PE 9010

https://www.chempoint.com/products/download?grade=78120&doctype=sds

Microcare IT

https://www.auroracleaning.com.au/cms/uploads/Aurora-Cleaning-Supplies-Microcare-It-preservative-1085.pdf

Thank you heaps LeonB.

By the way, i tried with 4% salt and it was too thick and then tried 9% salt. will find something ill settle with.

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I can get MicroIT. Is this preferred over the Euxl ?

Thanks for all your help.
Much appreciated.

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I tested 6% and 8% on my current batch and have found the viscosity i like which is fantastic! Thank you.

Ill test another batch tonight without the wax and see how it performs.

I have yet to add a perservative but i am going to try out the Euxl PE 2010 perservative.

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After the hand applied shampoo I will learn about creating a snow foam. For just a hand applied shampoo do you think a Chelating agent is necessary?

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wow, the spray works very well in the video. Are you using developing the Siloxane as a detailing spray?

Thanks for the tip about the charge, I have to do more searching.

I cannot get Berol 611, or the chemical name Ethoxylated fatty acid alcohol in my country. Do you have a more widely available product that you can recommend? I have found Kathon CG.

I am developing a hand applied car shampoo.

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thanks heaps for the advice, i have redirected my searches to preservatives that may work with my pH range.

I would assume that preservatives i buy from my country would be already approved for use. Looking at a few, they have legal weights that I am allowed to use, so ill keep under their limit.

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From the formulas Ive found I don’t see the use of the chelating agent, Is this something of a requirement? Might have only saw 1 or 2 formulas that have used it.

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Siloxanes is a great suggestion for hydrophobic action. When you say ceramic claims do you mean its effectiveness in a layer of siloxane film over the paintwork?

I have added CAPB and have swapped to SLES to produce the shampoo. Is CAPB enough for your uses or have you added extra like amine oxide?

Also, what preservatives have you used that work your tests?

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I don’t sanitize any of my equipment at the moment but I probably should. Would you know the best part/weight I should mix phenoxyethanol with Sodium Hydroxymethyl?

I have found an a pre-made mix that look ok to use, Euxyl® PE 9010, have you dealt with this perservative?

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Thanks for these resources, I will have a read of them.

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This is fantastic, thank you. Great resource.

I would like to think I am close to the formulas here. Do you have recomendations to find the perservatives that manufactuers use when they just state “perservative?”. The ones ive found dont show the CAS number aswell.

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I wanted to try something different from SLS and found that other manufactuers were using the CFAS, so have tried that.

Ill have to purchases SLES and try that

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Can I clarify what do you mean by clean? The manufacturing process or the amount of chemicals used?

What is the reason to add phenoxyethanol to Sodium Hydroxymethyl when Sodium Hydroxymethyl is already a preservative?

Thank you Philgeis

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Thanks ill use the salt to thicken it. Would you happen to know an alternate thickener other than salt or xantham gum?

I see your view on the cleanser and wax, but if I can ask, how do manufactures like Meguirs USA have a wash and wax product? I would have assumed they would have combined the wax with the mixture.

Thank you for your replies, much appreciated.

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I looked at both the products and they are hazardous and hard to get for a hobbyists like me. I looked at other alternatives to Methyl and was sent to dodecylguanidine which I cant find from my brief search. From what I found and can source are the below.

I have access to;

- Sodium Hydroxymethylglycinate
- Glyceryl Caprylate
- Leucidal® Liquid
- Naticide
- Phenethyl Alc
- Potassium Sorbate
- Sodium Benzoate
- Plantserve
- Microcare IT

What would be the preservative you would try for my application from the list?

Additionally, should be worried about the hazardous risks?

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Thanks, researching into preservatives now.

Are there any raw perservatives i can use? Looking at both Neolone and Dantogard, they look like brand names I cant find easily in my country.

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I want to use the carnauba wax as I want to have the coating affect on the vehicle thus my reason for using it. I will try doubling the amount.

Would you have any solutions for thickening?