thefeelion
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Thanks for that guys.
I thought the stearic acid/ammonium hydroxide thing would be an outside but unlikely possibility. I wasn’t entirely sure though and needed some confirmation and other ideas. Looks like they may both need to see a doc about it!
@Bill_Toge i’m extremely sceptical it could be to do with a trapped nerve, the pressure applied shouldn’t be enough. Both headaches started within 5 minutes of application and the cream had been applied to freshly squeezed pimples, that’s why i’m more inclined to believe it was something to do with the cream.
I’m now wondering if it could have reacted to something on the skin as well? Both people work outdoors around various chemicals, one is a farmer and the other is in a vineyard… -
From my limited experience with camellia oil it would be better to use in a day cream. I’ve found it better for use on an oilier skin type.
The whole purpose of a night cream is to provide extra nourishment and help prevent TEWL while you sleep. Using the same oils as you would for a day cream would be defeating the purpose of creating a night cream in the first place. I agree with AuroraBorealis, jojoba and avocado is definitely a good way to go.
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Is this happening with one person or multiple? Are there any other ingredients? Where exactly is the sensitive area?
It could be an issue with the person’s sensitivity to one or more of the ingredients used, or it could be an issue with the formulation itself. It could also be they are putting the product somewhere it shouldn’t be put.
It all depends…
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Ok, I think I just answered my own question. I didn’t realise something could be classified as both a cosmetic and drug. It all makes a bit more sense now!
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Thanks heaps for that link Perry, and thanks Bobzchemist for you information also. I think it will prove really helpful. It’ll be interesting to see what the views on that are here in NZ.
Even after reading that link it all seems like a sticky tangled web with a very fine line to tread. Does it all come down to marketing and the wording used for the description of the claims of a product? It sounds like it would be a question of whether the company minds if it treads on the FDA’s toes or not, or how skilled their marketing department is.
It looks like I have more research to do!
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Thanks for those answers. The reason I was asking was more intellectual than practical. I have to admit, I’m a little confused when it comes to the FDA regulations (what little I know of them). How deep is too deep? What classifies as ‘affecting the structure or function’? For example, the Joyce Blok anti-aging range (created in Australia) has an ingredient called Matrixyl 3000 (palmitoyl oligopeptide, tetrapeptide-1, glycerine, butylene glycol, and carbomer) which, according to them, stimulates collagen by tricking the skin into believing there are broken collagen strands that need to be fixed/replaced. Does that not affect the structure and function of the skin? Would this ingredient be allowed in an US cosmetic, or would it be considered a drug?
I’m from New Zealand and I know our regulations are a little different than the US or even the EU (I’m still doing research on this) but it’s good to have other viewpoints.
Sorry if this is a basic question, I haven’t done a lot of chemistry and I’m just trying to get my head around all of this!
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I like the idea of a cream or a gel rather than a liquid with brush. To me, it seems like the liquid/brush idea could possibly get a little messy to apply? A cream could be associated with a standard depilatory cream so, if you wanted to separate yourself from that slightly you could go for the gel. Hope that helps!
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Not sure if this will help you, but it could be worth a look…
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Hi Belassi
I definitely agree this could be an effective alternative to other depilatory options out there at the moment. Especially considering the how much “natural” market has grown. I think being able to say to a client that a product has naturally derived ingredients is now a big draw card.
When you add in the points that is painless and also reduces hair re-growth by at least 50% it becomes hugely beneficial, particularly to the shavers, depilatory cream users, and people with pili multigemini folliculitis.
I am sure there are a lot of beauty therapists (myself included) and hair removal specialists out there that would like to try this.
I would be interested to know whether it would work equally well on both bark and light hair and what effects it may have on the skin.
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Hi people,
I’m Mel from New Zealand. I’m currently doing a “special topic” research assignment on cosmetic chemistry for my second year of a Diploma of Beauty and Body Therapy. I think I chose myself a difficult topic here (as usual), as I feel like, so far, I have only just scratched the surface of a rather large and perfectly scented beast in stealth mode!
I have recently discovered the joys (and trials) of formulating my own products (mainly creams at this point), and hope to incorporate them into my salon/spa when I do eventually open it. Preferably I would like to be focused on products for sensitive/reactive skin using botanicals and naturally derived ingredients. I have a feeling I have once again made things difficult for myself!
I apologise in advance if I ask silly, basic, or odd questions. I don’t mean them to be, I just truly want to know more. About everything. That’s why I decided to go back to school as an adult student.
I look forward to sharing with and getting to know you all!
Mel
