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  • Stivtoo

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    February 16, 2022 at 7:42 pm in reply to: Inconsistent cream properties. Smooth one time, coarse the next

    All my mixing batching containers are stainless jacketed non pressurized vessels. Always the same ones. I use city water cooling to reduce the temp. after homogenizing. I can surely try a short homogenization followed by a low shear cooldown which takes 2-3 hours. My cooldown adds are Germall Plus, Panthenol and Vitamin E. I used to add the dimethicone ingredient after cooldown (~45C) because I had heard anecdotally that it can decompose at higher temps but others said that was not the case and I haven’t seen any problems adding at 75C. I do wonder though because the dimethicone surely imparts gloss and flow to the product. Maybe I should move it back to cooldown adds?

  • Stivtoo

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    February 10, 2022 at 7:20 pm in reply to: Inconsistent cream properties. Smooth one time, coarse the next

    I have tried to remove the mixer after the initial 30min blend. Sometimes its fine but other times you can see phases separating. On these occasions I keep blending till it has cooled to 61C. Not sure what causes the different outcomes.

  • Stivtoo

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    February 9, 2022 at 4:40 pm in reply to: Inconsistent cream properties. Smooth one time, coarse the next

    I heat and hold the oil phase at about 75 C for 1 hour the water phase is brought up to 75C just before mixing. Vessels are water jacketed stainless steel. I’ve used the same vessels every time for good and bad batches. I homogenize from mixing at 75 C for about 30 min. then continue while cooling until about 61C

  • Stivtoo

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    February 9, 2022 at 3:44 pm in reply to: Inconsistent cream properties. Smooth one time, coarse the next

    Very interesting point. I was wondering if I was loosing significant water in the heating phase even though the vessel is covered. Both creams seem quite stable. it is the appearance that is the issue. I might be right on the ragged edge of O/W vs. W/O. I’m not sure the viscosity is that different (no viscometer available) but you can see a difference when putting it into jars. Should I just start with more water to account for loss?