[Shiro]

Happy birthday fellow Aries! Thank you for making this forum available for us to share and learn from one another.

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Graillotion said:

Shiro said:

GeorgeBenson said:

@Graillotion i dont know the answers to your question about soaping but i really want to try TEC, i’ve been curious about it for a while. Is there anywhere to buy it in smaller amounts? I havent seen it anywhere. You said you use it in deodorant, does it help deodorize? 

I recently bought 80mL TEC at Perfumer’s Apprentice.

Many, MANY times more expensive there.  For the same $15 you paid…you can get half a kilo here:  Buy Triethyl Citrate (TEC) Online Store - Essential Natural Oils

TEC is a really inexpensive ingredient, not sure why they always want to tear your head off?

Oh wow! I’m definitely switching suppliers! Thank you for the tip.

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GeorgeBenson said:

@Graillotion i dont know the answers to your question about soaping but i really want to try TEC, i’ve been curious about it for a while. Is there anywhere to buy it in smaller amounts? I havent seen it anywhere. You said you use it in deodorant, does it help deodorize? 

I recently bought 80mL TEC at Perfumer’s Apprentice.

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Thank you.

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I have not come across C12-13 Alkyl Lactate yet. Does it have the same dry finish as C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate when used neat?

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How do you like the dial-up tube delivery? When I tried Drunk Elephant’s Sweet Pitti cream deo I noticed that the product that was closest to the opening would crust around the holes. For mine I use an airless pump tube and apply using my fingertips, just like I would with face cream.

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I have been using the lactic acid deo for probably one year now and no irritation whatsoever. I make it for my boss, who has extremely sensitive skin, and he has not had any issues either. It feels like a light non-greasy lotion/cream, leaves no white residue and lasts 24-36 hrs depending on level of activity.
I got into low pH deo after using Lume and Sweet Pitti cream deos, and that’s how I arrived at the ideal pH. One thing I noticed about the mandelic acid versions was that after many months of use I would develop a slight funk/almost musty but not outright offensive, around 24hrs after use. I don’t know if that was due to the other ingredients used or the mandelic acid. So far that hasn’t been an issue using lactic acid.
As @Graillotion mentioned Lume really changed things up on their stick version. I’m still on the hunt for the right ingredient. I will admit I got sidetracked by life a little but will be getting back on track in a few months. In the meantime I have a safari or two to distract me.

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I, too, am hoping that some of our more experienced chemists will share their input.
I contemplated using cetyl alcohol, and maybe rice bran wax, but my one concern is that having that much thickener would render the product solid before the temperature cooled down enough for the cool down phase ingredients.

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Thank you @PhilGeis. I will consider that if making a big batch. I only make it in 100g batches for personal use, so not around long enough to cause any serious issues so far.