PhilGeis
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PhilGeis
MemberNovember 24, 2024 at 10:59 am in reply to: What % of Sodium Benzoate (and) Potassium Sorbate in Euxyl K712?2500-3000 ppm of each - buy think you need also something more directed at Gram negative bacteria - maybe phenoxy.
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PhilGeis
MemberNovember 23, 2024 at 8:39 am in reply to: What % of Sodium Benzoate (and) Potassium Sorbate in Euxyl K712?These 2 organic acid compose a pretty weak system. What is your pH?
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PhilGeis
MemberNovember 20, 2024 at 6:44 pm in reply to: Who regulates ethanol in cosmetics? FDA? IFRA? ATF?Primary as oz girl commented the ATF CFR 27 chapter 21.
https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-27/chapter-I/subchapter-A
ecfr.gov
eCFR :: 27 CFR Chapter I Subchapter A -- Alcohol
eCFR :: 27 CFR Chapter I Subchapter A -- Alcohol
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Total BS
“…anti-microbial properties especially beneficial for the use in AP/Deo formulations. It reliably reduces odor-causing bacteria…”
as is the preservative system
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BHT is not an antimicrobial preservative.
What’s pH?
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PhilGeis
MemberNovember 11, 2024 at 10:17 am in reply to: Solve the smell problem of fermented extract?Is this your ferment or some thing you purchased?
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PhilGeis
MemberNovember 9, 2024 at 9:05 am in reply to: "…no bacteria or mould can live in 31% MgCl2 solution" says manufacturerbrine - saturated aq. solution - manuf is full of feces.
https://www.hou.usra.edu/meetings/modernbrines2021/pdf/6006.pdf
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PhilGeis
MemberNovember 9, 2024 at 8:59 am in reply to: Seeking Advice on Washing Machine Liquid Formulation IssuesWhat’s pH? Might need a preservative.
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PhilGeis
MemberNovember 9, 2024 at 7:02 am in reply to: Use of CMI MI and DMDM hydantoin at high pH by UniliverYour concern is CMI stability at high pH?
Household/industrial products are typically preserved vs contamination in making, not in use. So CMI loss is not a factor. For example, the high surfactant, high pH, squeeze package of hand dish wash largely eliminate in-use contamination risk because microbes that can grow under those conditions are not found in use. They adapt in the relatively poorly controlled (vs cosmetic) manufacturing systems and come in with ingredients such as salt.
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what’s pH?
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PhilGeis
MemberNovember 8, 2024 at 10:25 am in reply to: Preservation Need for High Glycol Product?0.94 - about at the edge of Gram negative inhibition, not enough for other bacteria and fungi.
not picking on you - but how “microbiome friendly”?
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add something for fungi and Gram + bacteria
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PhilGeis
MemberNovember 5, 2024 at 5:00 am in reply to: Sanitizer - efficacy data drops when we apply moreWhat “efficacy” is that? What test and what data?
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PhilGeis
MemberNovember 3, 2024 at 4:11 am in reply to: Air freshener Based on 99 % isopropyl alcohol and fragrance oil only !neither needs a preservative
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pointed out these were boosters -so why do they think effective. Answer was paste and cut from supplier for “Hydroguard” (composed of the 2), no data.
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Asked ’em on facebook - right they said propanediol and hydroxyacetophenone.
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Neither/both will not preserve.
To Perry’s point such small/startup brands not only screw up out of ignorance (a generous interpretation of these formulas), they can forget to add things like preservatives (e.g.https://www.drunkelephant.com/voluntaryrecall.html) and certainly can’t be relied upon to establish safety in formulation or ingredients.
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PhilGeis
MemberNovember 27, 2024 at 6:24 am in reply to: What % of Sodium Benzoate (and) Potassium Sorbate in Euxyl K712?Sure - 1000 ppm -= 0.1%
So 0.25-0.30%
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thanks - and it’s Phil
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PhilGeis
MemberNovember 11, 2024 at 10:10 am in reply to: Preservation Need for High Glycol Product?4.5 is the dilurted product - not the product itself.
How much water is in the product itself?
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OK - maybe the Shisedo test. It’s BS but it’s out there.
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Sure wonder at the stability - sorbate can be oxidized in water solution usually give a yellowish tint.
I’d sure ask the supplier for stability data.
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf60232a072
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Thanks - got it
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Sure
“Parfum : 0.5%”, if this is Natacide, please do not use it.