OldPerry
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There is nothing about either of those ingredients that would cause hair to fall out or thin.
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My idea…
Store the bottles upside down. When you turn them right side up, no more condensation problem. -
@Iaskedbetter - When you can buy VO5 for less than $1, making it for yourself doesn’t make any sense even when you know the exact formula.
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Good question.
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I tried and used all the formulas I worked on. In fact, while I don’t work for them any more I still use Tresemme and VO5. It was strange the first time I had to go and actually buy the product. As a formulator you got left over samples from QA or any batch you were working on.
I know there were a number of formulators who didn’t use the products they worked on. It never made sense to me.An interesting tidbit…I believe in 2005 I had the most shampooed head in America. I was working on reformulating the Tresemme Shampoo and Conditioner formulas plus evaluating every new raw material I could get my hands on. My evaluation was to wash my hair and condition with every prototype. That year I washed my hair about 1500 times. (We had a shower at work and I could got through 6 or 7 samples pretty quickly.I’m proof positive you can’t wash your hair too much. Of course your scalp will hurt like hell. -
Ah, well, anhydrous products usually don’t require preservation. It’s advisable to use a preservative in case there is some residual moisture left on the product but lot’s of companies don’t preserve their anhydrous products.
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Of course, the ingredients could have preservatives in them and the company is just choosing to ignore putting that on their labels. They could be willfully ignorant or doing that on purpose. But more likely, the products will become contaminated and dangerous to use over time.
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@Chemist77 - I don’t have enough evidence to block anyone. I have removed the accused from the list of people on the “Need Formulating Services” list but I am not, as of yet, going to kick him out of the forum. My efforts to get his side of the story have been met with silence, however this does not automatically mean he is guilty. There could be lots of reasons he doesn’t wish to tell his side of the story. Like perhaps a lawyer told him not to comment.
If someone is convicted of fraud then I will remove them.@emilyinaustin - This doesn’t mean that I am complicit in allowing someone to defraud people visiting this forum. It is also not a defense of the accused. I encourage anyone to pursue legal action against him & let us know when there is a ruling against him.This post was not meant to be a witch hunt, but rather a cautionary discussion for anyone hiring a formulator or any other consultant. And I think there has been some excellent, general advice given on the topic.I’m hesitant to ban & remove anyone based on anecdotal evidence. Anyone can write anything about anyone on the Internet. I have no way of determining the validity of the claims.Just remember anyone can accuse you of anything and the next time it could be you who is complained about.But this is a community not a dictatorship. I’m happy to listen to all opinions. What would you do?Perry, 44Note: Since this discussion thread was started the accused has not posted on this forum. -
It’s an emulsifier really. Typically, you use it and then neutralize it to create an emulsion.
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To be fair, while Titanium Dioxide and Zinc Oxide can be found in nature the stuff used in industry is synthetically produced.
I would look at what the leading natural brands like Burt’s Bees are doing. -
What do people use Furoates for in other industries?
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I did a little searching through the literature but could not find any peer reviewed research on the benefits of topically applied glutathione. Do you have any kind of link?
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That would be great! I’ll look through my list of reader feedback and come up with a list of questions.
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This really was an excellent thread. I’ll have to seek other experts to do a Q&A
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It’s just my favorite number and I try to weave it into my life wherever I can.
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I’m not sure which formula had 32.143% ALS but 32% would have been fine. It may have been to get a specific % active.
Anyway, I often had fun including a ’44’ somewhere in my formulations. It was like my artistic signature. So in some Tresemme formulas you might find an ingredient like an extract at 0.044% instead of 0.05%. Or I’ll have SLS at 25.44% instead of 25%.I figured in production these numbers rarely got measured accurately anyway. -
Hello @CosChemFan - Sorry, I didn’t consider the % activity when I was answering. I believe the CAPB we worked with at Alberto was 100%. Although I could be remembering it wrong.
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Actually @Bobzchemist, even water can be an allergen. Or at least cause a skin reaction.
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You’ve got it. 11% of a 50% active ingredient is 5.5%
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I think one of the biggest mistakes startup entrepreneurs make is creating low priced products.
Don’t do it. Here’s why.1. You can’t out compete companies who have more money. The big guys will crush you.2. You won’t make enough profit to stay in business. Your profit should be at least $10 a bottle. Better if it is more like $50 a bottle.3. You can’t really increase your price substantially. Once you start low priced, you won’t be able to charge more for the product. Start high. You can always cut the price or offer discounts.Follow the model that Apple Computer follows. Don’t compete on price. Compete on story, quality, and experience.True, there will be lots of people who won’t buy from you and go for the cheapest product.Let them. Those aren’t the customers that a start up business wants. You want people who have money to spend.It takes a lot of work to sell 1000 bottles. It won’t be that much easier if you make $1000 profit or $10,000 profit. You might as well go for the bigger profit. -
Ha! The life of a formulator.
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Of course, if the PCPC wanted to invest a bit more money in their online product, search problems like that could be readily remedied.
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Great points @MichelleReece
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With the way companies consolidate & close in this industry, it is always a good idea to keep an up-to-date resume and interview for positions that seem interesting even if you are not looking to move.
LinkedIn is also a great place to have a presence. If you don’t have a LinkedIn profile, I’d recommend putting one together. -
You don’t need the Cocamide DEA. You can get plenty of thickening with the ALS / Betaine blend plus salt. No other thickening system required.