Mike_M
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@bobzchemist for us the interest comes from legal not from consumers. They are pulling their hair out these days with the ridiculous consumer advocacy groups.
@zink we use nano zinc in our lotion with SPF without any issues. In the US we do not make sunscreen so this is our only line with significant SPF.
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The origin of the molecule has no determination on classification, only the action. You can make it look thicker that would be a cosmetic.
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we just make a series and record the measurements. So .5%, .6% .7% that way you can see where your cutoff is in terms of viscosity and stability.
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Orally finasteride works well to combat MPB but as BobZ indicated it is a drug.
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I worked at Unilever in product formulations on a contract for a year. I now work in product development for a different cosmetic company. We work directly with R&D, Marketing and supply chain in various different projects. It’s really interesting and especially if you haven’t been around for a really long time it’s a great way to see things in a more integrated manner than just the innovation aspect of things. I’d be happy to answer any questions you have regarding compare/ contrast.
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Benzyl Alcohol/ Ethylhexylglycerin .5/.5 should do it.
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What bobz said. Take the regulations very, very seriously. The FDA considers sunscreen to be just as much a drug as aspirin or cold medication. And if they coming poking around they DO NOT take kindly to the sentiment “Well it’s not a real drug”
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In the US it’s an active ingredient so if you claim against it you have to provide extra claim support. Our best seller is at 1% and the clinicals are great I’ve seen people with almost debilitating eczema have relatively rapid relief.
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Yea I think we’ve gone as high as 3% in some creams but 1% is pretty much what you’d see. If you’re seeing higher percentages of oatmeal it’s because Aveeno uses that tri blend that includes concentrate in combination with the colloidal oatmeal. For a shampoo think something along the lines of a head and shoulders you’ll be able to get some pretty good stability with that type of viscosity.
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For colloidal oatmeal you’ll want as close to 1% total formula as you can get. Not easy with something lower viscosity like a shampoo or body wash. Aveeno has a baby care wash but it’s not 1%, we are their primary competition in this therapeutic market. Licorice root extract is a really nice addition to the formulation as well for anti-inflammation and anti-redness.
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You won’t get a very good consumer reaction with any cosmetic that has to be shaken unfortunately. MAYBE if it’s in a pump/spray application.
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You best bet would be a combination of petrolatum with a few different waxes to mitigate the greasiness. You can play around with it and figure out the optimal ratio for what you’re looking for. If you want an ointment no water, crème just add water.
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Then just give it time, they will go after them. The FDA thrives on being able to show all the things they do (sarcasm) so any place they can actually achieve something they will not let it ride. Might just be in queue at the moment.
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You could very, very easily forward the issue to the FDA and have them make her life very, very difficult. Even the big companies get involved in this stuff sometimes. We have been on the receiving end of this before due to ruffling feathers with our advertising.
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We have a maple here, the only issue is it has to be sent out for calibration rather than having a tech come in.
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I think you’re missing out here. The point is that even the best idea is useless without execution. And great execution with a bad idea is more beneficial than a great idea with no execution. It is not debating the value of a good idea.
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The time that it takes to cool down affects the formation that you’ll get in the final product. You can affect the final viscosity by cooling at room temp or rapid cooling depending on what you’d like.
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In this case I don’t think it’s a need thing, I think it’s a profit thing. If you have to buy bulk of a material that is $10,000 a KG and the average order is 10 grams for a home crafter or small business you’ll be sitting on a kg worth of material and more so thousands of dollar for quite some time before you break even.
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Clinicals have shown over and over that hot water itself is a skin irritant.
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Yea just checked through the database, looks like we’re using around half the usual levels. Some a bit less, some a bit more. Most of our products in the airless containers are gels.
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They’re really nice we use them in quite a few products actually.
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You have to start your own topic to get a reply.
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Rutgers has a masters program in cosmetic science as well there is a ton of manufacturing in the Tri state area as well as several of the big box brands so local networking could be of benefit. Also as Mark mentioned Ohio has P&G so maybe you could network over there as well at one of those programs.
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Ninol CAA from Stepan is really nice for viscosity building. You don’t need much, you could work it in with your SLES and just simply work on the ratio. Like mentioned above drop the salt level