MarkBroussard
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Poly Suga Mulse D9
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It was dismissed. The product was properly formulated using common cosmetic ingredients. But, you still need to spend money defending lawsuits regardless of the merits. Not all of the consumers purchasing your products will be knowledgable enough to be discerning … saw that word “acid”. I don’t think actual lawsuits are that common in relation to the number of cosmetic products sold.
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Yes, you should inquire if your CM has liability insurance on the manufacture of your product, but they will most likely require that you carry product liability insurance unless they developed the formula for you and it is their intellectual property. If there is an issue, the brand is the most likely first target of any lawsuit. A lawyer will generally try to work his way up the chain to include the party with the deepest pockets.
I once had a client who got sued by a client claiming that her skin was burned by the client’s hyaluronic acid serum that contained only water, sodium hyaluronate and preservative, so you can get sued with even the most benign product.
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Yes, you can use Disodium EDTA, Phytic Acid or Sodium Phytate. Generally in the range 0.1% to 0.2%. Be aware that if you use Phytic Acid it will shift your pH down and if you use Sodium Phytate it will shift your pH up, so add them while measuring the pH.
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Looks like you are add way too much dye. Cut that down to 0.01% or so.
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Your best bet would be to stick to food grade Sodium Benzoate, Potassium Sorbate, Citric Acid, L-Ascorbic Acid
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I would not rely on it solo since it mostly comprised of preservative boosters/potentiators. Pair it up with either Phenoxyethanol or Phenethyl Alcohol.
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I honestly don’t know, but you might give it a try. 2% Rice Bran Wax would probably solve your problem.
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You can get syneresis even with a completely anhydrous formula if the polarity of the oils are substantially different.
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@Perry:
LOL! … Or, Flap Jacks Under Roll Deo
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You might want to consider Isosorbide Dicaprylate or Sunflower Seed Oil Unsaponifiables if you’re looking for some sort of moisturizing component. Both are oil soluble. I concur with other posters that the most likely culprit is Glycerin. Do a knock-out w/o glycerin and see if it confirms.
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“Intimate Areas” … another target market application are fat folds for obese people, but I can’t think of any elegant way of saying that.
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You could call it “Natural Actives Deodorant” … the highlight the natural active deodorizing ingredients.
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“Imagining if your deo gets into LabMuffin’s hand some way some how, will she call you out?”
@@Graillotion:Remember that video you posted of LabMuffin ripping the guy with the Vitamin C Serum in propanediol … how would you like it if she posted a video like that ripping your not natural, “Natural” deodorant?
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Out of curiosity, are you homogenizing your mixture once melted or are you just mixing using a stirrer? If you are not, you might try homogenizing.
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You should be perfectly fine using GLDA to replace Sodium Gluconate.
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That all depends on what are the other component ingredients of your formula and what marketing channels you are targeting. You should be prepared to get called out on it. The issue is will that make any difference with your target consumers. Arm & Hammer got into a class-action lawsuit and regulators took action on a deodorant they labeled as “Natural” that contained triclosan and they had to re-label the product. I would caution against being too clever by half using the word Natural.
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You can see that the order of the peaks is in ascending order based on the Retention Time (RT). RT is the amount of time elapsed from the injection of the sample in the GC to the appearance of the peak correlating to that particular component on the chromatogram.
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If you use a pre-mix such as:
Lubizol’s Quickpearl PSBC (Glycol Distearate, Laureth-4, Cocamidopropyl Betaine) it greatly simplified the whole process since it’s a liquid, cold-process product. Just thicken up your product sufficiently and you won’t get any fallout.
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Yes, you can use any chelant of your choice, just make sure that you use one.
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No, an airless pump container would be considered the preferred packaging component of your preservation system. These are the essential elements of a good preservation system, packaging included. The respective preservative system component ingredients are inexpensive, what take a risk when you don’t need to?
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The problem is the Caprylyl Glycol in the Optiphen Plus. Caprylyl Glycol blows viscosity in most emulsions. You would be better off using PE9010 + Gluconolactone (and) Sodium Benzoate
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I would recommend using pH = 4.8 for all products where that pH is feasible. You’re using low pH as a component of your preservation.
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GeorgeBenson said:@Abdullah where do you source your caprylhydroxamic acid? I’d like to try it but can’t find it anywhere, same with chlorphenesin.
Caprylhydroxamic Acid is actually a chelating agent, not really a preservative per se. So, you can use it in a formula as a chelator to support preservatives, but don’t rely on it as a preservative.
Approach this like a math problem:
Good Preservation = Bactericide + Fungicide + Chelator + Glycol/Diol Preservative Boosters + pH = 4.8
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Squinny said:
Hi Mark can you advise what % of each of PE9010 + Sodium Phytate + Sodium Benzoate you would recommmend? Many thanks
@Squinny: For a water-based serum: PE9010 (1%) + Sodium Benzoate (0.35%) + Pentylene Glycol (2%) + Phytic Acid (0.2%); pH = 4.6 to 4.8
If you’re working with an emulsion: PE9010 (1%) + Sodium Benzoate (0.35%) + Pentylene Glycol (2%) + Phytic Acid (0.2%) + Caprylyl Glycol (0.3%); pH = 4.6 to 4.8