johnb
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What I am asking is for a reference to where you get the information that this substance does have the property of being an exfoliant.
I cannot believe that a material normally used as a hair conditioner will itself have exfoliating properties. Possibly it is included in the product for another purpose.
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Please explain how it does this or give a link.
I can find no references to the end use that you claim.
I still maintain that it is a cationic detergent most often used as a hair conditioner. However, it a an uncommon material (perhaps because of its high cost).
Check out https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/21917627#section=Top
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Dodecylhexadecyltrimonium Chloride is a fairly unusual cationic detergent used mostly as a hair conditioner. It is NOT an exfoliator although it may be included in exfoliator products for other reasons.
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What is the purpose of this “antioxidant mist”?
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Not sure about long term safety of the sulphate salt or its effectiveness for this application.
I’m yet to be convinced of the effectiveness (or esthetics) of the MgCl2 for this application.
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This effect is very common when making emulsions by phase inversion (that is adding the major phase to the minor phase during emulsification).
The phase inversion method is a very good way of making “fine grained” emulsions but does need careful mixing. You may find a paddle impeller better than the saw blade and it is definitely worth trying.
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The answer, obvious to me, is to remove one or both of the potentially offending materials.
Benzoic acid? Use a different brand of botanical which does not use benzoic acid as a preservative. Why are you using botanicals in a functional product like this? It is not doing anything useful.
Ascorbic acid? Plenty of other materials available which can replace this in cosmetic products.As Bill says, though, the risk is negligible.
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I appreciate you want a stable formulation but what function or effect does the colloidal gold achieve that cannot be obtained with other, more compatible materials?
Does the gold achieve the effect you want (presumably removal of dark circles)?
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It depends a lot on other aspects of your process.
The best way to answer your question is to try it youself and see.
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What is the effect you want?
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As Bill says, solid forms of Bentone require careful “activation” to realise their full potential.
Predispersed Bentones are far easier to use.
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Regarding the gel you have been testing (without the gold). Does that perform in the way you want your final product to perform?
If it does then there is no point in including any gold in the product.
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You must be very old, DRBOB.
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It is not the main function of this material to act as a scent and I doubt this aspect would be anywhere on the list of requirements for the herb.
As far as I remember, there are two types of Rooibos marketed, one fermented and one not. Only the fermented herb has the brown colour.
I recall that the odour of rooibos is redolent of methyl salicylate (wintergreen) perhas including some of that will overcome the malodour you are complaining about
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Please be aware that not everyone uses Microsft Office.
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Assuming that your bar is an alternative to toilet soap as a personal cleanser, have you considered the problems there are in formulating a bar that will sit in a soap dish and not turn to mush?
The biggest selling non-soap “soap”, Dove, contains a large quantity of real soap in an effort to give “dish stability”. I doubt that your formula will do that.I worked for Unilever at the time Dove was being developed and although I was not directly involved in its development work, I was aware of the difficulties associated with the poor “dish stability” and, even now, syndet bars and “combi” bars (such as Dove) have poor integrity on storage in a soap dish.
LOI Dove:
Sodium Lauroyl Isethionate
Stearic Acid
Sodium Tallowate Or Sodium Palmitate (Soap)
Lauric Acid
Sodium Isethionate
Water
Sodium Stearate (Soap)
Cocamidopropyl Betaine
Sodium Cocoate Or Sodium Palm Kernelate (Soap)
Fragrance
Sodium Chloride
Tetrasodium Edta
Tetrasodium Etidronate
Titanium Dioxide (CI 77891).
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What are the attributes of cannabis derived ingredients that you feel will be useful in cosmetic products?
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Arbuting releases hydroquinone (banned in cosmetics in Europe) and there has been/is debate as to whether its use as a skin lightener should continue to be permitted.
I would not consider using arbutin in a new cosmetic.
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OK, There are few (no?) MgCl2 deo products on the market. If it really worked, why are the aluminium containing products (with all their bad press) not being rapidly replaced by MgCl2 alternatives?
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Emollient/humectant or a water soluble silicone will not increase evaporation rates to provide faster drying.
Are you really convinced that MgCl2 is effective as a deodorant? As I mentioned in my first reply here, as far as I know, there are no commercial products using magnesium salts as actives in deodorants/antiperspirants. If it really worked, I would have expected the market to be overflowing with products to counter the anti-aluminium mafia.
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Which site? I’ve not given any links here.
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There is no point in extracting vitamin C. It is so low cost that extraction is not worth while.
Regarding papain, there are recognised methods of collecting the papaya latex and extracting the papain from that. I doubt it involves propylene glycol.
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You will get more replies if you give more details of what you are trying to achieve.
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The big problem with using alkanolamine soaps is that they do not solidify.