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  • How to Stabilize formulation with colloidal Gold Solution

    Posted by Shubh123 on December 28, 2016 at 8:54 am
    Hello Friends,  I am making under eye Gel having colloidal Gold solution. But After 6 days the completely loses its viscosity. I think colloidal gold solution was responsible for it. So How can i stable this product with colloidal gold?
    Shubh123 replied 7 years, 2 months ago 5 Members · 26 Replies
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  • johnb

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    December 28, 2016 at 11:27 am

    It is not possible to comment on your problem without information on the components of your product.

  • Shubh123

    Member
    December 28, 2016 at 12:04 pm

    I used sodium carboxy methyl cellulose starch, glycerin,Cationic Gaur,PEG-75 lanolin with colloidal gold solution..Firstly it become a good gel but after 6 days it loses viscosity

  • johnb

    Member
    December 28, 2016 at 1:06 pm

    Do you have any antimicrobial preservative in the product?

  • Bill_Toge

    Member
    December 28, 2016 at 6:57 pm

    CMC is anionic, it won’t stay stable in the presence of cationic guar gum

  • Shubh123

    Member
    December 29, 2016 at 4:17 am

    @johnb…..yes.we have antimicrobial preservative in the product.

  • Shubh123

    Member
    December 29, 2016 at 4:19 am

    Thnx@Bill_Toge……I thought the problem is in colloidal gold…But Cationic guar & CMC creates problem..What u suggest me in place of CMC?

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    December 29, 2016 at 4:37 am

    What is the viscosity stability profile over time of your product without the colloidal gold?

    The number of chemicals that could take the place of CMC reaches into the hundreds - what thickeners are available in your country?

  • Shubh123

    Member
    December 29, 2016 at 4:48 am

    @Bozachemist……In our industry…We have Acrylate copolymer, carbopol940,Hydroxy methyl cellulose, Xanthum gum,Starch,Polyacrylamide & C13-14 Isoparaffin & Laureth-7.
               We didn’t try the product without colloidal Gold solution so no idea about stability profile.

  • belassi

    Member
    December 29, 2016 at 6:49 am

    Colloidal gold is merely fine gold dust suspended in some medium or other. What medium is it, exactly?

  • Shubh123

    Member
    December 29, 2016 at 7:43 am

    @Belassi ;
    The formulation is
    Phase-A
    Water-30ml
    Cationic Guar-0.3gm
    Phase-B
    Water-49.1ml
    Sodium carboxymethyl Starch-2gm
    Glycerin-4ml
    Phase-c
    PEG-75 Lanolin-2gm
    Water-20ml
    Phase-D
    colloidal Gold solution-0.5gm
    Fragrence
    Preservative

    Procedur-
    Heat Phase A.
    MIx Phase B separately & add Phase A to B.
    Mix Phase C separately & add it to Phase A &B
    Add Phase C

  • belassi

    Member
    December 29, 2016 at 3:27 pm

    That is not what I asked, but since it’s only 0.5% it is unlikely to be the cause. Unless my mental arithmetic is failing, this formula adds up to more than 100%

  • Shubh123

    Member
    December 30, 2016 at 11:47 am

    @Belassi 
    Sir, actually i don’t understand what you are asking. Medium means excatly what? Carrier for Colloidal gold?

  • belassi

    Member
    December 30, 2016 at 3:39 pm

    Yes

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    December 30, 2016 at 6:23 pm

    You really need to know if you have a stable formulation without the colloidal gold before you go any further.

  • Shubh123

    Member
    December 31, 2016 at 4:32 am

    @Belassi 
    Sir,we didn’t use any carrier for colloidal gold solution. It is just water based formula. Is it necessary to use carrier? What u suggest?

  • Shubh123

    Member
    December 31, 2016 at 4:34 am

    @Bobzchemist 
    Yes Sir, We made this formulation without colloidal gold & now checking its stability.

  • belassi

    Member
    December 31, 2016 at 3:44 pm

    Since you don’t understand what I am talking about, and this is causing me some frustration, I am ceasing to comment.

  • Shubh123

    Member
    January 2, 2017 at 4:53 am

    @Belassi 
    Sorry sir…

  • Shubh123

    Member
    February 23, 2017 at 4:22 am

    @Bobzchemist
      Sir the formula is stable for 2 months without colloidal gold solution. It is still stable.

  • johnb

    Member
    February 23, 2017 at 7:54 am

    Regarding the gel you have been testing (without the gold). Does that perform in the way you want your final product to perform?

    If it does then there is no point in including any gold in the product.

  • Shubh123

    Member
    February 23, 2017 at 10:59 am

    @johnb
    No sir! Its just stable without gold but not giving the effect i want.

  • johnb

    Member
    February 23, 2017 at 11:13 am

    What is the effect you want?

  • Shubh123

    Member
    February 24, 2017 at 5:56 am

    @johnb
        Sir! as we preparing an under eye gel for dark circle and we want to stable the formulation with colloidal gold solution.

  • johnb

    Member
    February 24, 2017 at 7:41 am

    I appreciate you want a stable formulation but what function or effect does the colloidal gold achieve that cannot be obtained with other, more compatible materials?

    Does the gold achieve the effect you want (presumably removal of dark circles)?

  • Shubh123

    Member
    February 24, 2017 at 7:49 am

    @johnb 
    yes sir! colloidal gold achieve the effect of removal of dark circle. But it is hard to make stable formulation with colloidal gold.

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