[JenSpice]

These are so good! Thank you Perry!

[JenSpice]

Yes, my DIY colloidal oats are not readily felt until the product dries. There are no lotion blobs or texturing like you get when the particles are too large. Since it is whole oat, (fiber is intact and not chemically changed) my final leave on products leaves that soft, silky powdery texture that is so characteristic of oat.

I am not familiar with the product you attached in the link , so I could not say.

If you want to try making a wider range of products with your DIY colloidal oats I would suggest freeze drying the liquid oat mass. As a liquid it really only has one application, one where you have a water phase.

When I get around to testing whether or not freeze drying opens up storage options, I will update this post. I really would love to see how home processed oats hold up in makeup applications and other dry products.

Here is a picture of a product I designed for Baraka Shea Butter using the oats and some of their raw ingredients.

[JenSpice]

My name is Jen and I have a background in biology, chemistry and psychology. I am just getting back into science after raising my children and have enrolled in several formulating courses online. I have been making basic sodium soap for 20+ years and have a local custom brand that sells out regularly called Naked Honey (by Jentle Soaps).  I have also been making DIY beauty products for about 30+ years and have finally found my home back in school learning the proper way to formulate and create and am having a blast! Thank you Perry for offering your courses, I am sure I will be taking them ALL. I have worked as a DIY formulator for a couple of raw ingredient suppliers and am excited to bring to the table some more quality products as I learn to use the more refined raw ingredients available. There is so much misinformation out there about what works and what is just fairy dust and it is nice to have a place to sort out the proven from the folklore. Be prepared for some very basic questions from me. As the saying goes… the more you know, the more you realize how much you just do not know.

[JenSpice]

I managed to hydrolyze oats (whole finely ground) in water by grinding/ boiling it for several days/grinding and regularly testing for colloidal nature. I used a huge amount of water to give the simmer time to break down the molecules using heat and water (no NaOH required).

I am currently making lotions and creams with the liquid colloidal oats without issue. They are smooth and silky when used at the correct % (under 2%).  I used a broad spectrum preservative which seems to be holding its own in the laboratory. I am storing the oats at different temperatures just for kicks to see if it is really stable. Honestly it is a lot of work for such an inexpensive raw ingredient. Having said that I also plan on freeze drying some to see if that process breaks down the oats even further.

 I also made hydrolyzed glutenous rice and used a weak NaOH solution and it turned out brilliantly! Just remember to readjust the pH and use a preservative.