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Thank you Perry, and congrats for your soberness and all your work in the web.

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Bobzchemist and Perry  the truth is always hard to hear but we MUST follow it.

I must agree with the truth and the reality of the facts. Of course it’s not clear and proven that additives can do something in a rinse-off hair product - it looks very difficult. Do you believe the same about our body? For example, have a body wash with special additives advantages over simpler products?
And may i ask you something? Did you ever put additives in your creations just for the look and prestige of the products?
As you know better than me (i’m not a chemist, i’m geologist with only 5 years experience on cosmetics and i fell in love with this work and try to study the basics in cosmetic science), cosmetics marketing it’s not only about the performance of the products but also a kind of a philosophy / a way of living and thinking etc. which i think it’s not a bad thing because cosmetics are not drugs which don’t need any “salt” to sell well. And if we want to be honest to our customers and don’t sell to them products with “salt”, our competitors will do it and we will loose the game. So lastly i think i will add a little honey to my shampoo…
Thank you for your time and comments.

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Thank you Perry for your comment. At PubMed you can find some works on honey for topical application:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24305429
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21479349
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3611628/
Also at the 3d edition of “Dermatology” by Jean L. Bolognia, MD, Joseph L. Jorizzo, MD, and Julie V. Schaffer MD you can find this reference at page 2205:
Randomized, controlled trials have shown that honey enhances healing
of first-degree and superficial second-degree burns. The evidence is
inconclusive with regard to acute wounds, postoperative wounds and
pressure ulcers, and it is not effective for venous ulcers. One study
suggested that honey may be more effective than topical acyclovir in
the treatment of recurrent labial and genital herpes simplex7.
Honey contains sugars, amino acids, vitamins, minerals and enzymes
(e.g. catalase), which are thought to encourage debridement, promote
granulation and epithelialization, and reduce edema. Antibacterial
properties are related to peroxide activity and osmolarity. For example,
manuka honey has antibacterial activity equivalent to that of phenolic
acid. Contact dermatitis has rarely been reported.

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O.k., we all know the cosmetic qualities of honey. It is not enough, therefore, the short time which is in contact with the hair to transfer some of its beneficial properties? But all the ingredients will rinsed away except maybe the conditioning agents. So actually, all act for a short time on our hair. I haven’t try it, but i think it will be not the same a shampoo with only surfactants and a shampoo with added ingredients like extracts, humectants, emollients etc.

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Perfect statements Mr. Perry!

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Link is wrong. It’s APIVITA Propoline Anti-Dandruff Shampoo for Oily Hair
http://www.apivita.com a Greek big brand.

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Of course:
http://www.apivita.com/hair/shampoos/anti-dandruff-shampoo-for-oily-hair.html

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The ingredients list is from the official site of the brand. Thank you all for your responses.

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I decide to try another conditioning “natural” agent “Plantasil micro” INCI: Dicaprylyl Ether (and) Decyl Glucoside (and) Glyceryl Oleate. Has anyone an experience on this?

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How much percent oils do you want to use?

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Thank you Bobzchemist. My pH is 5. I’ll try to bring it down to 4 - 4.5.

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Thank you for your replies!

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Τry reducing the content of surfactants and add glycerin.

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Hi, I’m Heraklit and i want to combine emotions and humanity with scientific rigor and accountability, making a few simple useful cosmetics.