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Great advice from everyone.
And yes everyone is obviously correct, we are making a liquid hand soap. Every batch has come out great using the paste method. But as we stated, its just not that practical for our larger batches. It takes a long time.I have tried adding all the water to the formula with a much more caustic solution, and then tried neutralizing afterwards. It still didn’t saponify fully, and the oils became separated in the solution after all was said and done.I am kind of at a loss of what experiment to try next to achieve the same results. Or maybe it is just one of those things that can’t be done, and there is no way around the paste issue?!? -
We are not heating the soap, just letting the heat of the hot Lye solution do the “cooking”. The product comes out great when we make the “paste” and then dilute it.
But whenever we add the extra water for dilution to the Lye, it’s as if the solution is not as caustic anymore and doesn’t have the same effect on saponifying the oils.I have tried increasing the Lye amount, but without any positive results.We want to avoid making the “paste” and go straight to a thinned out soap so our machinery can handle it.Belassi, once our oils are saponified, that is our surfactant in our solution, correct?? -
We are calculating the amount of KOH by the individual SAP value of each ingredient, and then totaling together.
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On your Kaolin, do you have just white Kaolin or are you able to source red Kaolin as well? Thanks @belassi
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Email sent, thanks for the lead…!
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Awesome information. Thank you everyone. I think my question has been answered! I am not so much in need of trying to create a formula that is antibacterial, is I feel it will set me back to square one. But I was curious as to if my formula had any antibacterial properties. I am indeed to cosmetic chemist, but appreciate all of your guys advice. I think I will just have to stick to creating a quality hand soap, and stay away from making any “claims” on my label. Sounds like a big headache to me…
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Interesting. Thanks for the information! I know in order to make the “claim” on my bottle there would be a lot more testing/compliances I would need to comply with. I just was more so curious for my own good, how good my “home made” soap was at disinfecting my hands.
And Bobzchemist, I actually did saponify the Lauric Acid with the hydroxide. And it actually makes a very nice soap when combined with the other ingredients. Thanks for the help as always!
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I just received the SF-1 yesterday and started experimenting with it today. So far very successful results, but I definitely need more time to see the final results. I didn’t specify in my beginning post, but once the product is complete there is about a 65% water : 35% surfactant solution. I should have stated there was more water in the final product. Also, I have actually had bentonite in it as well, but didn’t list that as I thought people would have shot down that idea. With that being said I am still hoping the SF-1 is the choice. And well if not, then on to the next things like you suggest @chemicalmatt .
I am really aiming for a textured scrub with this soap, and pumice in my experience has been the best texture for the hands. It is a high density, but it is done in multiple brand name soaps such as GoJo, Fast Orange, ZEP, or Lava Soap. If I can get something close to that I will be happy. I also don’t care about the “look” at all, just how it performs at the end of the day. Everyones advice is greatly appreciated, I will keep you updated on the project!
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That is very good information to know, thanks a lot @Belassi . Looks like I will wait until the Aqua SF is in. @milliachemist , when you say a 30% TS, are you saying to add it at 30% of the total solution?!?! That seems like a tremendous amount, I just want to clarify to be sure. Thanks a ton for all the knowledgeable information!
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Thank you guys very much! I just ordered some Aqua SF-1 so I am excited to try that. I also ordered some Carbomer 940, but I’m not sure I have will has much success with that product? Do I need to add heat when adding the Aqua SF-1 or can I incorporate it at room temperature? Thanks!
-Bryce
