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Total Level of ceteareth 40% is too high and I guess you passed the maximum level of use, your pH will be more then wanted. The most difficult thing in pomade is process not formulation.

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Almost the maximum level use of TEC in many references is 5%.

Can not be used at 10% or more in dedorant and will be more efficient then 5%?

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@chemicalmatt @Cafe33 @Perry44 @ketchito @Abdullah

Any add for using low hlb emulsifier more?

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What is your preservative? my suspect is conservation problem or perfume or both.

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Actually it is full formula and it is not my formulation just i want to correct it. So by searching D-Panthenol is already not liposoluble.

To find the cause of separation I added ingredients one by one so what I found out there it seems no issue

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CAPB with other one surfactant make the job, wich is the best? you shlould work for that.

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À lot of correction can be made, there is no need to slat, you need to neutralise your carbomer, there is no need to two thickener, a lot of surfactants wich will increase the price of your product without any intereststing gain.

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Not bad level to start maybe as total 25%.

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I remember that @Perry44 said that till level superior or equal to 1 ingredients must listed by decreasing level then it doesn’t matter.

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Interesting concept thanks a lot.

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Thanks a lot for sharing.

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@ketchito actually If you watch you can see that almost dedorant (if not all) with aluminium chlorohydrate are made with combination between (ceteareth/steareth 2, ceteareth 20..) and always low hlb emulsifier have higher level. For sure there is justification for that your answer seems good , thanks a lot.

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Yes easy test.

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Not really you don’t need preservative.

@PhilGeis what do you think?

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I guess he can add paraben easier without need decreasing PH.

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I guess almost cosmetic is.

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Yes it is full formula not developed by me just I found out that Panthenol is not soluble in the product as first mistake then the orange solution has very near viscosity to Vit E.

Note : we are making formula by adding ingredients one by one to identify the cause so paraffin oil + grape seed oil +fragrance +Ethylhexyl methoxycinnamate seems mixcible without any issue with parrafin oil +fragrance +grape seed oil +Ethylhexyl methoxycinnamate

Note :viscosity of orange phase seems too near to Vit E

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Is there any benifet to fix pH lower then 4 for deodorant?

In other way will be more efficient as deodorant then deo with 4 range ph?

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I’am Just joking by 10,000 experts, about cream I meant even it is not hydro-liposoluble actif as zinc oxide it will be not problem by suspension with adequate viscosity.

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I see professional formulation that contains zinc pca, zinc oxide and zinc ricin oleate.

Castor oil seems for can have some effective job because zinc ricin oleate is already a drevative from him.

I’am working for cream product so solubility is not a problem. And blogger for me as professional are not a reference however I can find some professionals formulation wich contains baking soda, corn strach, titanium oxide and coconut oil

For the proverb, that’s why i’am here to hear from 10000 experts 😉

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The definition seems more correct that antitranspirant is product wich block transpirtation from skin in practice aluminium chlorohydrate doesn’t.

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Thanks a lot @Perry44 very useful, for the first point I meant when you make new formulation by first formulation.

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Agree with @Cafe33

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Thanks a lot for your precious informations.

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For my formulation even at 0.15% c12-15 decrease the transparency of hair wax.