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Total Level of ceteareth 40% is too high and I guess you passed the maximum level of use, your pH will be more then wanted. The most difficult thing in pomade is process not formulation.

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Almost the maximum level use of TEC in many references is 5%.

Can not be used at 10% or more in dedorant and will be more efficient then 5%?

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@chemicalmatt @Cafe33 @Perry44 @ketchito @Abdullah

Any add for using low hlb emulsifier more?

[Fekher]

What is your preservative? my suspect is conservation problem or perfume or both.

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Thanks.

For making cream the order is :

1)heating separately oil and water phase to 70°C(Except perfume and preservative)

2)take both oil and water phase far from heat source(cooling start very fast it needs near to 30 min to reach 40°C)

3)start stiring with 600 rpm speed

4) between 50° C and 40 °C emulsion became thick as usual(stiring 600 rpm) .

5)from 40° C or lower emulsion became thinner( stiring 600 rpm without adding preservative and perfume)

For conditioning hair : the chronology of viscosity is in cooling phase.

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Thanks but it can be irritant and also cause coloration in product as I read.

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Yes, for sure however piroctone olamine is not available in my country.

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I guess but even sensicare c1060 works.

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Thanks a lot

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I will not use Gluconolactone (PHA) for stability reason, ph will be in the optimal range of standard cream between 4.8 and 5.3.

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Sensicare c1060

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Means?

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Even some proteins and perfumes so for emulsion it Evry ingredient can change the viscosity of your product even dramatically with very low level this is a results of my some experiences.

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Fine I got the list ingredients then :glycerin, Edta, glycols can make emulsion thinner.

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Share the ingredients of industrial mask.

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CAPB with other one surfactant make the job, wich is the best? you shlould work for that.

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À lot of correction can be made, there is no need to slat, you need to neutralise your carbomer, there is no need to two thickener, a lot of surfactants wich will increase the price of your product without any intereststing gain.

[Fekher]

Not bad level to start maybe as total 25%.

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I remember that @Perry44 said that till level superior or equal to 1 ingredients must listed by decreasing level then it doesn’t matter.

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Interesting concept thanks a lot.

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Thanks a lot for sharing.

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@ketchito actually If you watch you can see that almost dedorant (if not all) with aluminium chlorohydrate are made with combination between (ceteareth/steareth 2, ceteareth 20..) and always low hlb emulsifier have higher level. For sure there is justification for that your answer seems good , thanks a lot.

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Yes easy test.

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Not really you don’t need preservative.

@PhilGeis what do you think?

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I guess he can add paraben easier without need decreasing PH.