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I guess you can do it, almost liquid shampoo contains both cationic and anionic surfactants.

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May the add of polyquaternium and CAPB with reducing glucoside will give better product.

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@PhilGeis @Paprik @ketchito @evchem2

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The level of perfume is too high and can be the reason.

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why using two Preservative with total level 2% that seems soo fake.

Then stearic acid with Triethanolamine give Triethanolamine stearate which is high hlb emulsifier.

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May you need cationic surfactant and yes you can use only CAPB and glycoside.

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With CAPB and glycoside as I guess you can reach a quite good product,sure for shampoo you need more ingredients for having a basic free sulfate shampoo so you have to work more for getting better results.

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What about reducing some Actives surfactants to have lower viscosity?

Just try low dilution and watch the result.

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Thanks a lot for the interesting reference, actually I never ask about references before I make efforts and researchement however I did not find any interesting ones. In may case I did not use any water soluble thickener however I found the same curve of viscosity said in your reference however I predict that in one very high speed stiring the curve will decrease and we will have same curve with salt curve.

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Thanks a lot, actually I found some articles talk about the relation between viscosity(level of oil, temperature of emulsion) and but I did not found good one which matches between viscosity and stiring speed and viscosity.

Just I watch that in hair gel when stiring is too high forgot how the day goes exact speed the viscosity of product decrease. For cream I watch that the viscosity of cream increase only, going from 0 tr/min to 2000 tr/min as string speed the emulsion started in 70 C.

Any reference for the relation between the viscosity of emulsion and the speed /time of stiring it will be exciting.

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Yes it is Cetrimonium chloride, it was just manual stiring for five minutes.

However today i found out new phenomenon that the time and the speed of stiring have a huge effect on the viscosity of emulsion so could you explain me more the phenomenon please?

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Yes it is hair conditioner and CATC is citramonium chloride.

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Soo surprised from the link so do you guess it is the same for Ceteareth-25? actually almost water based pomade contains more then 20%

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Thanks a lot for your comments.

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Thanks a lot for your suggestion, especially uv filtring packaging nice new information ????

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The level of cocoamide DEA is low near to 1% so I don’t go with your guess but maybe.

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Yes In perfume I also use colorant and no the perfume did not change the odor.

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I can not change packaging I should find solution with a transparent package even in market there are same product with transparent package so there is solution even in such packaging

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Shower gel and hand liquid soap have 7 as pH

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The pH is 7, discoloration going from pink to no coloration and it is liquid colorant that I did not know it’s origin.

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That will be not the level of active surfactants but the level of surfactants and even it is the level of active it is higher then the required.

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You are welcome.

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You are welcome and waiting for good news.

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Which is the level of active surfactants in such product? it seems more then needed