[emullient]

Umm, Im not really sure as I am only familiar with the safety assessment that is required for the product to be sold in the EU. 

[emullient]

Yeah I read the happi article. So I do not know why gracefruit told me I cant use it instead of BTMS..

[emullient]

I’ll study the shampoo a bit more and do a bit of testing.

The conditioner is from my point of view even more difficult because I dont want to use btms. Ive been hunting and hunting a cationic conditioning agent that is ecofriendly and I found out about distearoylethyl dimonium chloride ( https://www.gracefruit.com/item/958/Gracefruit/Gracefruit-Softener-EQF-65.html ) but when asking about this ingredient from gracefruit they told me it can NOT be used instead of btms. I asked again, that not even with some emulsifier?, but the answer was still no, with no explanation. 

I dont really understand. Its a cationic conditioning agent, but can not be used alone without btms to condition hair. Hmph. 

[emullient]

I didnt mean that someone made the formulas for me, but that I make them and people who know better would point out if there would be something that I just cannot do, any problems or ingredients that dont go well together. 

I guess with the shampoo bar it doesent need to have that much conditioning agents as its meant to clean, not to condition. I try and make the formula for the condition bar later for that specific purpose  

I left the silicones out of the formula because I personally dont use products with silicones, and there are so many people who dont want them either. Not because of the fear of build up, but because they arent really good for the environment.

[emullient]

Cant anyone help?