[EarthE]

Thanks so much @Abdullah @chemicalmatt i will make adjustments and come back with a feedback. 

[EarthE]

@Abdullah thanks for this info. but i am more confused now as i have not been able to dig up any research material on this. I have seen several hair conditioner with SD and EDTA or SD and Citric Acid listed on the LOI. 

do you have any suggestion as to what could replace this two to make this formula better? 

[EarthE]

shuchi said:

Hi All

I tried a leave on conditioner formulation and the issue is that it has turned thicker in consistency as against the intended gel like consistency. THe formula details are

Phase A                       %                          
D/w                          81.80
guar gum                    0.50
cetearyl alcohol           2.00
glycerine                     1.50

Phase B
Quat 7                         3.00
Quat 10                       2.00
Stearic acid                  2.00
BTMS 50                      5.00

Phase C
Dimethicone                2.00
Cetrimonium Chloride 1.50

Phase D
D panthenol in water   1.50
M paraben                   0.50
Fragrance                    0.30
Citric acid                    0.10
Keratin+ bitoin & water1.00

The intended pH was between 4.5 & 4.9. Mine was at 4.8. I was quite happy with the testing. The hair detangled beautifully and turned absolutely soft and frizz controlled. Also, the keratin+biotin capsules were meant for intake and I experimented with them. The result was quite pleasing. The hair fall had reasonably reduced with just 2 uses. 

However, the fishy odor was a spoiler. I referred some blogs and tried increasing the fragrance as discussed in some forums too. I had to nearly pour half of a 30 ml bottle. One week gone now, the conditioner has turned to a cream consistency and the perfume is overpowering. Also, the perfume used was brown in color and so I presume that the pinkish color of the conditioner is an impact of the fragrance. I am happy with the impact on the hair but am looking for expert views on how I could achieve transparent gel like consistency without the fishy odor. 

Your CETAC is way higher than the recommended usage for leave-on product of 
0.25%

[EarthE]

Exactly my point of view: I’d rather opt for having my hair easily detangled than a feeling of conditioner deposition and risking breakage.

@Farah your conditioner with low pH could you share the main active combination? And the lower level pH range?