

Bill_Toge
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Bill_Toge
Professional Chemist / FormulatorJuly 3, 2015 at 6:34 pm in reply to: dissolving acrylate copolymer??firstly, what’s the tradename of the material you’re using?
(I ask as there are dozens if not hundreds of materials with this INCI name)
secondly, what purpose will it serve in your finished product?
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Professional Chemist / FormulatorJuly 3, 2015 at 6:26 pm in reply to: Product claims rules and regulations.the fact that “natural” is a very vague term with no legal definition is a real two-edged sword
while you can in principle make it up as you go along as @David says, the disadvantage of this is that such a vague claim will be impossible to prove if it’s challenged, particularly if you attach an actual number to it
a clearer and more provable statement would be “materials of natural origin comprise [PERCENTAGE]% of this product by weight”, which is probably what is meant in the examples you’ve cited
as the resident toxicologist and safety assessor at my last place used to say: don’t claim anything on the pack that you can’t defend in court!
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Professional Chemist / FormulatorJuly 2, 2015 at 2:17 pm in reply to: Tips For Hydrating Hydroxyethyl Cellulose (HEC)?just remembered something important: are you using a surface-treated grade of HEC?
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Professional Chemist / FormulatorJune 26, 2015 at 6:44 pm in reply to: W/Si Foundation.. Homogeniser crisis?!if by “inexpensive” you mean “several hundred pounds but probably less than £1000”, try a model A Greaves mixer:
http://greaves.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/High_Shear_Lab_Mixers.pdf
also, apropos of nothing, until now I had no idea there were any UK-based academic qualifications in cosmetic science
since it’s essentially a mixture of industrial science and engineering, I’d be very interested to know how it’s taught
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Professional Chemist / FormulatorJune 25, 2015 at 8:56 pm in reply to: Ingredients that cause burning effectit would be helpful if you listed the ingredients in question -
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Professional Chemist / FormulatorJune 25, 2015 at 7:01 am in reply to: Oleic acid versus triglyceridesthat happens because the lye hydrolyses the triglyceride esters in safflower oil to form the acid in situ, and then the sodium salt of the acid - a slow step followed by a fast step
when you use the acid itself instead of the triglyceride ester, you remove the slow step of the process, and so the sodium salt is formed much more quickly -
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Professional Chemist / FormulatorJune 24, 2015 at 11:45 am in reply to: Tips For Hydrating Hydroxyethyl Cellulose (HEC)?the fundamental problem is that the two parts of your formula (HEC gel and surfactants) are not sufficiently mixed, and the large difference in viscosity makes efficient mixing very difficultone way round it is to take advantage of the fact that the speed of hydration increases with temperaturethe best way to do this is to add HEC to your room-temperature water, skip the hydration step, add the surfactants on top of your non-hydrated HEC dispersion, and heat it up with constant stirringonce it gets to 75°C it will hydrate within minutes, if not seconds, and you should get a more uniform gel -
Bill_Toge
Professional Chemist / FormulatorJune 21, 2015 at 5:39 pm in reply to: self foaming cleanser sedimentin which case, it could be one of your surfactants crashing out due to the alcohol content
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Professional Chemist / FormulatorJune 19, 2015 at 9:01 pm in reply to: Glydant™ Plus™ Liquid / free formaldehydein which case I’d suggest you refer this matter to your safety assessor and see what their view is, since they’ll ultimately be the ones who sign your product(s) off as safe and determine whether or not they go to market in their current state
for what it’s worth, none of the safety assessors I’ve dealt with have ever recommended adding this warning, not even the ones working to corporate policies and limits which went went well over and above the ones prescribed by the regulations
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Bill_Toge
Professional Chemist / FormulatorJune 19, 2015 at 7:11 pm in reply to: Now hand sanitizer is under attackin the absence of any actual dosage or exposure figures, this whole video is pretty meaningless
also, I like the way they misspelt “bisphenol” on one of the cards
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Bill_Toge
Professional Chemist / FormulatorJune 19, 2015 at 7:00 pm in reply to: Glydant™ Plus™ Liquid / free formaldehydefirstly, “contains formaldehyde” is only required on products containing formaldehyde itself, i.e. not formaldehyde donors, and even then it’s only required if it’s included for non-preservative purposes; see Annex III/13
Annex V/5, which covers its use as a preservative, does not specify any labelling requirement, and nor do any of the entries for formaldehyde donors in Annex V
secondly, any product containing DMDM hydantoin that’s not formulated at an extremely acidic or alkaline pH, or stored at temperatures over about 50°C, will have a negligible concentration of free formaldehyde; it only releases formaldehyde when microorganisms try to digest it
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Bill_Toge
Professional Chemist / FormulatorJune 15, 2015 at 7:04 am in reply to: HDPE or LDPE packagingthe only potential issue with using LDPE with that kind of product is having fragrance and other volatile materials leaching through it and/or discolouring it
whether or not this is likely to happen will depend on how thick the walls of the pack are, and whether the plastic is single-density PE or a blend of high- and low-density PEin my experience, blends are more robust than single-density grades -
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Professional Chemist / FormulatorJune 13, 2015 at 9:08 pm in reply to: Palm oil free productsyou might be able to make an absolutely palm oil free product if it had nothing in it but water, silicones, synthetic polymers and mineral-based materials
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Professional Chemist / FormulatorJune 12, 2015 at 2:46 pm in reply to: self foaming cleanser sedimentwhat’s the pH of this cleanser?
(I ask as glucosides contain a lot of insoluble matter at alkaline pH, which clears at neutral or acidic pH)
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Professional Chemist / FormulatorJune 12, 2015 at 6:55 am in reply to: Ethanol concentrationPEG-150 distearate is only dispersible in surfactants; don’t know what effect alcohol has on it
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Professional Chemist / FormulatorJune 12, 2015 at 6:52 am in reply to: World’s Worst Chemist Needs YOUR Help! - Pomade Formulation@Clark, hydrogenated castor oil, PEG-40, and PEG-40 hydrogenated castor oil are three different things
hydrogenated castor oil is a very hard wax with a high melting point which creates a gel-like structure in oils, and stabilises viscosity at high temperaturesPEG-40 is a water-miscible liquid used as a solventand as @ozgirl said, PEG-40 hydrogenated castor oil is a water-miscible surfactant used for solubilising oils into waterthe “nature-ral” recipe in your second post would make a more conventional pomade -
Bill_Toge
Professional Chemist / FormulatorJune 5, 2015 at 12:04 pm in reply to: Comparable formulation to this conditionerbehentrimonium methosulphate is a mild conditioner and a cationic emulsifier (available from Croda, as the Incroquat BTMS series)
Lactamide MEA is a humectantpolymethoxy bicyclic oxazolidine is an antimicrobial, presumably part of the preservative system -
try it both ways, that way you can find out for yourself which one’s best
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1. heat water
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Bill_Toge
Professional Chemist / FormulatorJune 5, 2015 at 8:24 am in reply to: Mood change lipstick@Roberto1969, D&C Orange 10 is banned in Europe, but all the others are OK
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try heating the water before you dissolve it; it’ll take forever to dissolve in cold water
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Professional Chemist / FormulatorJune 5, 2015 at 8:16 am in reply to: Want improvements in handwash formulaCMC doesn’t boost foam like HPMC does; if anything, it’s more likely to kill it
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Professional Chemist / FormulatorMay 29, 2015 at 7:35 am in reply to: Ethanol concentrationUltrez 20 is very tolerant of alcohol; I’ve used it with up to 60% w/w in the past, and never had any difficulties
whichever one you use, it’s best to disperse it in the water before you add the alcohol, since it’s an absolute ball ache trying to add it afterwards -
well for starters, you cannot legally claim that your product is “free from any chemicals” unless you want to try selling a vacuum
absolutely everything that goes into a product, whether it’s part of the packaging, the product itself, or even the air inside it, is a chemical of some kind, both in the scientific and the legal sense
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Bill_Toge
Professional Chemist / FormulatorMay 25, 2015 at 6:33 pm in reply to: Glycol distearete issue in surfactant systemthis sounds more like you’ve not enough viscosity to keep the pearls from falling out
what viscometer, spindle and speed are you using to measure it?