[Amittal]

@MurtazaHakim you can add citric acid aprox 1.4 kg or more to make it neutral. Check ph if it’s not 7 den increase citric acid 100gm again check ph and so on.
But if the product ph decrease too much den again add caustic soda. 

[Amittal]

@bil7 I’ll add labsa to 3kg but like labsa sles will not clean properly den what ingredients should i add to replace labsa for cleaning purpose. And thanks for problem of clear and fragrance. 

[Amittal]

@Aziz i want Benzalkonium Chloride bcz its preservative and also anti-microbial. On other hand sodium benzoate is only preservative

[Amittal]

Ok.. Tx guys 🙂

[Amittal]

@ozgirl tx for my 2nd issue can u help me with 1st issue..  Without capb foam is good… But after adding some capb foam decreases.. Pls help me!! 

[Amittal]

@Gunther @Chemist77 @chemicalmatt any help pls

1st issue i am getting less foam after adding capb don’t know why!
2nd issur is there any way to use Benzalkonium Cloride with sles?? I am currently using sodium benzoate. But i want to use bkc

[Amittal]

@ravimosai in ur formula the fragrance is water soluble or oil based fragrance if fragrance is oil based then how you are emulsifying the fragrance? 

[Amittal]

Tx @Chirag i replaced hpmc with capb the end product is much more transparent but i am getting less foam after adding capb don’t know why!
And is there any way to use Benzalkonium Cloride with sles?? I am currently using sodium benzoate. 

[Amittal]

@Gunther
with higher viscosity the formulation become cloudy 

[Amittal]

the HPMC giving sticky feeling how to remove it ?

[Amittal]

@Chirag I tried.and you are right… So i am using nonionic (alphox 200) with bkc . 

[Amittal]

chemicalmatt said:

Citric acid and caustic soda?
LABS and SLES?
HPMC and NaCl?
No preservative other than high pH?
No amphoteric hydrotrope?
You got problems there, my friend.

@chemicalmatt 
1. Citric acid is for ” https://www.thespruce.com/citric-acid-safety-cleaning-uses-1707021 ” and caustic soda is for making LABSA neutral ( or any suggestion ) .

2. LABSA is my primary surfactant and I am using SLES for emulsify the fragrance ( is it ok ? or any other suggestion for SLES  ? ).

3. ( we tried CMC, HEC, MHEC, Carbopol 940 ) HPMC is best compatible with LABSA and nacl for cheap thickener ( also we conduct a salt curve analysis ) , and we know with salt, form decrease. So, alternate for nacl which compatible with HPMC ?

4. For preservative i am using now Benzalkonium chloride and my product have ph 7  ( BKC is it ok ? or any other suggestion for BKC )

5. given order of amphoteric hydrotrope will try this also thanks.

and sorry for my english