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  • Dishwash liquid

    Posted by ravimosai on November 29, 2018 at 4:06 pm

      I am posting this formulation for people who might me interested in looking for Dishwash liquid Formulation. This is tried and tested formula and I make dish wash making using the same formula. 1 liter 

    Water :  to 100
    Formaldehyde or Sodium benzonate: 10 ml/10 gr
    Urea: 25 gram
    EDTA: 10 gram
    LABSA: 400 gram
    NaOH: 50 % soluiton ( adjust the pH to 6-7)
    Liquid colour: 1-2 gram
    Fragnace : 1 gram
    SLES: 400 gram
    CDEA: 100 gram
    Salt: 60-70 gram (make me less or more depending viscosity you need)

    Mix the ingredients as listed. Leave the mixture for 24 hrs. 

    ketchito replied 1 year, 11 months ago 22 Members · 42 Replies
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  • Gunther

    Member
    November 29, 2018 at 10:29 pm

    Did you try a more concentrated dishwash?
    I’m having trouble with neutralized LABSA being cloudy at 15%+ LABSA.

  • ravimosai

    Member
    November 29, 2018 at 10:53 pm

    Gunther said:

    Did you try a more concentrated dishwash?
    I’m having trouble with neutralized LABSA being cloudy at 15%+ LABSA.

     This formulation is working fine .. I get clear Dishwash gel..

  • Gunther

    Member
    December 1, 2018 at 9:09 pm

    ravimosai said:

     This formulation is working fine .. I get clear Dishwash gel..

    How much LABSA did you use (in % of the final formulation?
    I’m having trouble getting beyond 10% LABSA, even 15% is borderline cloudy.

  • ravimosai

    Member
    December 2, 2018 at 7:44 pm

    Gunther said:

    ravimosai said:

     This formulation is working fine .. I get clear Dishwash gel..

    How much LABSA did you use (in % of the final formulation?
    I’m having trouble getting beyond 10% LABSA, even 15% is borderline cloudy.

      I m sorry Gunther. Now I see what you are saying. My formula is for 5 ltr and not for 1 litre. My bad.  :D 

  • Gobel

    Member
    December 3, 2018 at 4:31 pm

    ravimosai said:

      I am posting this formulation for people who might me interested in looking for Dishwash liquid Formulation. This is tried and tested formula and I make dish wash making using the same formula. 1 liter 

    Water :  to 100
    Formaldehyde or Sodium benzonate: 10 ml/10 gr
    Urea: 25 gram
    EDTA: 10 gram
    LABSA: 400 gram
    NaOH: 50 % soluiton ( adjust the pH to 6-7)
    Liquid colour: 1-2 gram
    Fragnace : 1 gram
    SLES: 400 gram
    CDEA: 100 gram
    Salt: 60-70 gram (make me less or more depending viscosity you need)

    Mix the ingredients as listed. Leave the mixture for 24 hrs. 

    Sir please answer following of my queries regarding your formula,
    1. What is the expected shelf life of the product? Is there any need to add preservatives?
    2. I am going for a small start-up and have arranged all the chemicals listed above, can you pls guide the step by step process in short? No problem if you don’t cuz I have the general idea but to be safe it would be a great help.
    3. What is the meaning of Water to 100 cuz I see it everywhere.

  • ravimosai

    Member
    December 3, 2018 at 7:34 pm

    ravimosai said:

    Gunther said:

    ravimosai said:

     This formulation is working fine .. I get clear Dishwash gel..

    How much LABSA did you use (in % of the final formulation?
    I’m having trouble getting beyond 10% LABSA, even 15% is borderline cloudy.

      I m sorry Gunther. Now I see what you are saying. My formula is for 5 ltr and not for 1 litre. My bad.  :D 

    Gunther,

     I haven’t made it more concentrated, because at this formulation I am getting thicker gel then Vim. 

    I will try it to make it with 15% and would tell you, how it goes.

  • ravimosai

    Member
    December 3, 2018 at 7:46 pm

    Gobel said:

    ravimosai said:

      I am posting this formulation for people who might me interested in looking for Dishwash liquid Formulation. This is tried and tested formula and I make dish wash making using the same formula. 1 liter 

    Water :  to 100
    Formaldehyde or Sodium benzonate: 10 ml/10 gr
    Urea: 25 gram
    EDTA: 10 gram
    LABSA: 400 gram
    NaOH: 50 % soluiton ( adjust the pH to 6-7)
    Liquid colour: 1-2 gram
    Fragnace : 1 gram
    SLES: 400 gram
    CDEA: 100 gram
    Salt: 60-70 gram (make me less or more depending viscosity you need)

    Mix the ingredients as listed. Leave the mixture for 24 hrs. 

    Sir please answer following of my queries regarding your formula,
    1. What is the expected shelf life of the product? Is there any need to add preservatives?
    2. I am going for a small start-up and have arranged all the chemicals listed above, can you pls guide the step by step process in short? No problem if you don’t cuz I have the general idea but to be safe it would be a great help.
    3. What is the meaning of Water to 100 cuz I see it everywhere.

    Hi Gobel,

    1) Shelf life depends on the quality of Ingredients and Utensils you use. If all is good then the Shelf life would be around 18 months. This is for my products that I make.

          2) What exactly you mean by step by step process? 

        3) Water to 100 means:  For example you are making a product of 1 litre.
           When you add all ingredients and it amount to 250 ml.  So What is remaining ml to 1litre? Ans: 750 ml. This 750 ml is the amount of water you need to add. i.e Water to 100 (100%)

  • sven

    Member
    December 3, 2018 at 8:58 pm

    @ravimosai is this formulation not for 5 liters as you discussed with @Gunther above? 

  • ravimosai

    Member
    December 3, 2018 at 9:34 pm

    It is for 5 litre … not for 1 litre

  • chemicalmatt

    Member
    December 3, 2018 at 10:41 pm

    What is with the urea? Not needed there. 
    LABSA used was 96% commercial form?
    Also, pH should be adjusted to 8.0 - 9.0 to truly make this “tried and true” my friend. Just sayin’

  • Gobel

    Member
    December 4, 2018 at 8:05 am

    ravimosai said:

    Gobel said:

    ravimosai said:

      I am posting this formulation for people who might me interested in looking for Dishwash liquid Formulation. This is tried and tested formula and I make dish wash making using the same formula. 1 liter 

    Water :  to 100
    Formaldehyde or Sodium benzonate: 10 ml/10 gr
    Urea: 25 gram
    EDTA: 10 gram
    LABSA: 400 gram
    NaOH: 50 % soluiton ( adjust the pH to 6-7)
    Liquid colour: 1-2 gram
    Fragnace : 1 gram
    SLES: 400 gram
    CDEA: 100 gram
    Salt: 60-70 gram (make me less or more depending viscosity you need)

    Mix the ingredients as listed. Leave the mixture for 24 hrs. 

    Sir please answer following of my queries regarding your formula,
    1. What is the expected shelf life of the product? Is there any need to add preservatives?
    2. I am going for a small start-up and have arranged all the chemicals listed above, can you pls guide the step by step process in short? No problem if you don’t cuz I have the general idea but to be safe it would be a great help.
    3. What is the meaning of Water to 100 cuz I see it everywhere.

    Hi Gobel,

    1) Shelf life depends on the quality of Ingredients and Utensils you use. If all is good then the Shelf life would be around 18 months. This is for my products that I make.

          2) What exactly you mean by step by step process? 

        3) Water to 100 means:  For example you are making a product of 1 litre.
           When you add all ingredients and it amount to 250 ml.  So What is remaining ml to 1litre? Ans: 750 ml. This 750 ml is the amount of water you need to add. i.e Water to 100 (100%)

    Sir by step by step i mean, like first we add labsa to ______ ml water and mix it. then make a NaOH sol and then mix it with labsa, then make separate sol for each ingredient and add it with labsa and mix for 30 min…. like this sir.

  • Ahmad

    Member
    January 31, 2019 at 7:36 am

    Hello everyone,
    can somebody tell me that i can use methyl alcohol less than 1% in a dish wash liquid?

  • Gunther

    Member
    January 31, 2019 at 4:01 pm

    Ahmad said:

    Hello everyone,
    can somebody tell me that i can use methyl alcohol less than 1% in a dish wash liquid?

    Even if regulations allow it, don’t
    there are more effective and safer preservatives out there.
    Customers may sue you, and you or some of your employees may end up very ill just from chronic exposure to it.

  • Ahmad

    Member
    February 7, 2019 at 7:47 am

    @ Gunther
    Thanx Gunther actually it was used for the fragrance solubility agent…
    Scent was making solution precipitated. I mean scent was making my clear solution unclear.

  • Chemist77

    Member
    February 7, 2019 at 9:07 am

    Methanol????? really???

  • smok

    Member
    February 7, 2019 at 2:03 pm
    if it is for personally use you dont need urea and edta
    you should pricing the amount of water water to nomean anythig

  • Amittal

    Member
    February 17, 2019 at 2:49 am

    @ravimosai in ur formula the fragrance is water soluble or oil based fragrance if fragrance is oil based then how you are emulsifying the fragrance? 

  • luiscuevasii

    Member
    February 17, 2019 at 3:33 am

    Hey @Gunther i have Made a 18% Labsa dishwash as sole surfactantes And i havent cloudiness issues, i’m fact above 16% the viscosity is very good, check And control the rise of temperature, And try without other Labsa suppliers

    The experiment where Made when There our supplier runout of sles.

  • bil7

    Member
    March 7, 2019 at 6:43 pm

    Mixed d limonene with 2 parts of tween 20 plus 1 part of TEA added to solution or you can also mix above with glycerin then pour to formulation.

  • bil7

    Member
    March 7, 2019 at 6:46 pm

    If cloudy is coming you are not neutralize sles labsa completely after adding and properly stiring just also add tartaric acid 1 part as 10 part of citric it will give yoy crystal shine in product will glow brighter 

  • myatmyat

    Member
    March 18, 2019 at 9:07 am

    how can I make clear transparent dis wash liquid soap?

  • ravimosai

    Member
    March 20, 2019 at 5:45 pm

    You can drop Labsa percentage

  • ravimosai

    Member
    March 20, 2019 at 5:46 pm

    Amittal said:

    @ravimosai in ur formula the fragrance is water soluble or oil based fragrance if fragrance is oil based then how you are emulsifying the fragrance? 
    Water based fragnance
  • myatmyat

    Member
    April 5, 2019 at 3:08 pm

    Thanks you very much for everything !
     It is ok?

  • Ahmad

    Member
    April 19, 2019 at 7:50 am

    Hello everyone,
    I want to know about the impact of perfumes on dish wash fromulation as i am facing to types:
    1 thickness decreasing
    2 Smell also drops by adding more surfactants(SLES or Labsa).
    Can somebody tell me about water based and oil based perfumes? 

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