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You need preservatives

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Because to make LGN, the ratio should be 1:1 to 1:6 high HLB:low HLB surfactants in mole.

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I think Xanthan Gum and Panthenol is less than 1% in first formula so your surfactant should be ≤1% too.

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You need all of them. Add EDTA, reduce pH to at least 4.7 and increase benzoate to 0.5%.

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I would use equal parts of EQ 65 and cetearyl alcohol to make high viscosity LGN without any other emulsifier or co emulsifier.

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So what should we use for the purpose of suspending silicone in shampoo?

Sxs

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This product claims that it removes calcium from hair.

Is pH 2.8 because citric acid chelates calcium better at that pH? Or because at pH 2.8 hair has positive charge?

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Thanks for explanation

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And that glycine is 29th ingredient on LOI.

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What confused me is that in their website they say it has 3% citric acid and at LOI citric acid is 12th ingredient even after fragrance.

Can it be that 3% citric acid is not in this product and in another product?

Their LOI

AQUA / WATER / EAU ● SODIUM COCOYL ISETHIONATE ● DISODIUM LAURETH SULFOSUCCINATE ● GLYCOL DISTEARATE ● SODIUM LAURYL SULFOACETATE ● SODIUM LAUROYL SARCOSINATE ● GLYCERIN ● PARFUM / FRAGRANCE ● PPG-5-CETETH-20 ● DECYL GLUCOSIDE ● COCAMIDOPROPYL BETAINE ● COCO-BETAINE ● CITRIC ACID ● DIVINYLDIMETHICONE/DIMETHICONE COPOLYMER ● AMODIMETHICONE ● SODIUM HYDROXIDE ● POLYQUATERNIUM-7 ● POLYQUATERNIUM-10 ● CARBOMER ● SODIUM BENZOATE ● SODIUM CHLORIDE ● LIMONENE ● PEG-55 PROPYLENE GLYCOL OLEATE ● PROPYLENE GLYCOL ● SALICYLIC ACID ● BENZOIC ACID ● HYDROLYZED VEGETABLE PROTEIN PG-PROPYL SILANETRIOL ● GLYCINE ● POLYSORBATE 21 ● TRIDECETH-6 ● LINALOOL ● C12-13 ALKETH-23 ● C12-13 ALKETH-3 ● CITRAL ● CETRIMONIUM CHLORIDE ● PHENOXYETHANOL ● POTASSIUM SORBATE

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Good

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@Graillotion you said dimethicone 6 cst. it is 0.5% dimethicone 5 cst. I am adding it thinking it is not volatile. Are you saying it is volatile?

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It is a surfactant solution.

What about formalin at that high pH for ~30 minutes?

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Bothe have same amount of anionic surfactant and polymer

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Thanks. I will not add any preservative.

Just to know, is there any negative effect if i add any preservative in it?

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Do you know what was the article name from Dow?

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So why that book says SLS is milder than ALS?

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Then how sodium reacts with fatty acids?

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If i add NACL to hard water, then anionic polymer, would chloride interact with calcium and then anionic polymer expand fully or not?