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Thanks a lot for the file.

By the way, what is manufacturing/storage issues that has caused the recall?

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Happy new year to all you great people

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Maybe it is Disodium/Sodium Cocoyl Glutamate. Remove it and see or dont reduce pH below 6 and see what happens.

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This product has 1.5% of leaf powder and that powder has 10% active. So if you use 10% of this product you will get 0.15% leaf powder and 0.015% active ingredient.

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@Adamnfineman @Aniela thanks a lot.

That had confused me too.

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I mean how many 300kg batches have you made and how many of them had this problem or all of them had? <div>

How do you re heat and mix it?

I saw somewhere that if you mix mix an emulsion after cool down for some time it will increase viscosity and and stability. I don’t remember if it was with a specific emulsifier or all emulsions.

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Is this product currently on the market? <div>

It will clean and may smell good but if you compare it to any shampoo from market, you would like the shampoo more.

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Once i had such a problem with a batch of cationic guar too. Did purchase another batch and problem was solved.

I think your PQ 10 has problem.

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1. You didn’t give information about your procedure, lab equipments and large scale equipments and batch size.

2. Do you apply high shear when you mix and heat for second time?

3. How many batches has become like this?

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https://ifscc.org/abstracts/conditioning-by-cationic-polymers-on-asian-hair/

Here it is.

It also hase this formula for it

RSSL = Silicone peak height (Si–CH3) at 796.5 cm–1/

Hair reference peak area at 940.1 cm–1 to 919.9 cm–1

ifscc.org

CONDITIONING BY CATIONIC POLYMERS ON ASIAN HAIR - IFSCC

CONDITIONING BY CATIONIC POLYMERS ON ASIAN HAIR - IFSCC

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Thanks 🙏

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Thanks

Is there any method of adding this silicone emulsion to prevent this interaction ?

By ”rheology modifier” you mean thickeners like hpmc, xanthan etc or cocamide MEA?

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Use use ctac/FA at 1/4 ratio for Maximum viscosity

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Is this a conditioner?

What is the percentage?

What is Cetrimonium alcohol?

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Thanks

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Wouldn’t that extra anionic surfactant solubilize that coacervate?

I am using SLES 70% so i have to add it first in water to dilute it.

I mix my guar with FO and then add it to main tank. What is your opinion on that?

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This supplier said LABSA is more sensitive to hard water than SLS but another supplier like Stepan says SLS is more sensitive to hard water than LABSA

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Thanks a lot

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Can i ask how can we preserve a very simple serum that is only 0.3% xanthan gum in water without adding a synthetic preservative and chelator?

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@chemicalmatt thank

What is the effect on micelle chare?

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So what will change in CAPB is pH is above 6.25?

Nothing?

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Does this mean at pH above 6.25 CAPB will have negative charge?

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Hi mike <div>

Is the product currently in the market?

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I suggest you purchase from another seller or another type of PQ 10

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It definitely has. That is why i think it should have stronger cleaning power