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  • Xanthan Gum..Can it be used to increase viscosity of dishwash liquid?

    Posted by BILO on July 23, 2017 at 2:44 pm

    Hi,
    i am contemplating to use xanthan gum to increase the viscosity level of an economic dishwash formula.is Xanthan Gum suitable?

    My economic Formula includes Caustic Soda, LABSA, SLES, CDE, SALT (Thickener), Dye, Scent, Preservative. 

    Thank you in advance.

    abdullah replied 4 weeks ago 7 Members · 9 Replies
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  • chemist77

    Member
    July 23, 2017 at 3:59 pm

    Your formulation looks OK, why would you add Xanthan to it. Try optimizing it, surely you can get it thick. If you can get your hands on Amine Oxide, that should help you with viscosity and foam both.

  • belassi

    Member
    July 23, 2017 at 5:57 pm

    Can’t get a clear formula with Xanthan.

  • microformulation

    Member
    July 23, 2017 at 9:47 pm

    They do make a clear grade of Xanthan gum. RT Vanderbilt makes Vanzan NF-C for example.

  • DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ

    Member
    July 23, 2017 at 11:20 pm

    You can use xanthan but why in a dishwashing liquid?

  • BILO

    Member
    July 24, 2017 at 3:49 am

    Hi.

    Chemist77, i need to increase the viscosity because the local market for economic dishwash liquid requires it. The customers are requesting a dishwash liquid that is LUMPY and DARKER in colour.

    Belassi, clarity is not an issue. The requirement as i mentioned above is a heavily viscous liquid.
    Thanks.

  • DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ

    Member
    July 25, 2017 at 2:44 pm

    You would be better off with a cellulosic like HEC which will give both viscosity and foam stability.

  • chemist77

    Member
    July 25, 2017 at 4:14 pm

    Use dyes for coloration, no issue there. As for main formulation, I still would go with LABSA, SLES, salt, amine oxide; should get you there easy.

  • naina

    Member
    February 3, 2024 at 9:23 am

    Hello Dr did you find out if you can add xanthan gum or not? I tried adding xanthan gum to my mixture as I ended up adding a bit too much salt so it thinned out my mixture. The xanthan gum thickened but after a day it was back to the same watery consistent. Can you please advise what you did different?

    • abdullah

      Member
      February 4, 2024 at 9:47 pm

      Of course you can add it. Your formula problem might be something else.

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