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  • WTA - Pomade waterbased not harden/solid after 6 hour

    Posted by Anonymous on December 1, 2016 at 11:57 pm

    hi guys, i would like to ask your opinion. the mixture seems not getting harden/solid after few hour of mixing, i don’t know where i’ve done wrong. i hope you guys can assist me.

    distilled Water   -67%
    Ceteareth  - 25 7.5%
    Glycerin  - 4%
    Propylene Glycol - 3%
    Peg-7 Glyceryl cocoate - 3.5%
    Pvp K90 - 5%
    Peg-40 Hydrogenated castor oil - 2%
    Polysorbate 20 -  1%
    Fragrance - 1%
    dmdmh - 1%
    double boiler x 2

    phase 1

    mixing distilled water + PG + VG until clear , then heating it up nicely around 50c-70c. slowly input the PVP k90 into the mixture and stir slowly and mix it until the pvp is desolved completely and let it be on 80c

    phase 2

    mix PEG 40 CA + PEG 7 GC , stir it until in become unified enough for me, then slowly input the C25 into the mixture. stir it slowly.

    phase 3

    put (phase 2) into (phase 1) and stir it until the foam dissisipate and let it cool down to 50c

    phase 4

    input the mixture of fragrance + polysorbate 20 into the  boiler.

    phase 5

    last but not least, put the DMDMH for preservative

    it this correct guys? please share with me your thought and ideas.


    Anonymous replied 6 years, 6 months ago 1 Member · 2 Replies
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  • Bill_Toge

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    December 2, 2016 at 6:53 pm

    you need to increase your ceteareth-25; that’s the material that makes the product go solid

  • Anonymous

    December 8, 2016 at 11:19 pm

    @Bill_Toge tq mates , so i’ve change the ratio

    distilled Water   -60%
    Ceteareth 25 - 25 %
    Glycerin  - 1%
    Propylene Glycol - 1%
    Peg-7 Glyceryl cocoate - 1%
    Pvp K90 - 13.5%
    Peg-40 Hydrogenated castor oil - 1%
    Polysorbate 20 -  2%
    Fragrance - 2%
    dmdmh - 1%
    double boiler x 2

    i do get the solidifies result, but there is new problem coming up. cause i do put some colouring in the pomade, lets say blue. when i try to take a bit piece of it, some of the pomade become slightly white. not all of it.. is that normal? if it is, maybe because my home brew