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  • Why does this lip balm feel so d@ng good? Medline Remedy Phytoplex Lip Balm.

    Posted by graillotion on August 23, 2022 at 1:05 am

    First, I am not lip balm aficionado. So, I would be comparing this with Chapstick, Burt’s Bees…. just grocery story type products.

    Lip balm is a product I doubt I would ever endeavor to make…as I basically consider them all about the same…. along the vein of body wash, shampoo and conditioners…. just different fragrance profiles.

    I do however always like to learn what makes something especially nice and am often able to slip that knowledge into other unrelated projects down the road.

    So, before I list the INCI….(yes pure craziness)… what I am asking, is what gives this product the glide that makes one go WHOA / OMG / D@ang at the age of 56?

    I am guessing the 1% line would be either before or after ‘flavor’.  So I would have to assume the haptics are created above flavor?

    Love to hear your thoughts.  I know most of the fake exotic oils sold to the beginners on the internet is soybean oil…. I know it is silky, hence why they use it…. is that the secret?  Or some synergy with beeswax and candelilla?

    Helianthus Annuus
    (Sunflower) Seed Oil,
    Glycine Soja (Soybean) Oil,
    Beeswax, Euphorbia
    Cerifera (Candelilla Wax),
    Flavor, Cannabis Sativa
    (Hemp) Seed Oil, Mangifera
    Indica (Mango) Seed
    Butter, Limnanthes Alba
    (Meadowfoam) Seed Oil,
    Zea Mays (Corn) Starch,
    Hydrolyzed Corn Starch,
    Simmondsia Chinensis
    (Jojoba) Seed Oil,
    Rosmarinus Officinalis,
    Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract, Tocopherol, Methyl
    Diisopropyl Propionamide,
    Ethyl Menthane Carboxam
    -
    ide, Menthyl Lactate, Lauryl
    Laurate, Glyceryl Oleate,
    Butyrospermum Parkii,
    Chamomilla Recutita
    (Matricaria), Isomerized
    Safflower Acid, Palmitoyl
    Tripeptide-5, Resveratrol,
    Punica Granatum Oil,
    Dimethyl Sulfone,
    Ceramide, Glyceryl
    Stearate, Glycerin,
    Sucralose, Sorbitan
    Monooleate, Aqua, Butylene Glycol,
    Aphanizomenon
    Flos-Aquae Extract,
    Hydrolyzed Soy Protein,
    Camellia Sinensis Extract,
    Soy Amino Acids, Yeast
    Extract, Eugenia
    Caryophyllus (Clove)
    Flower Extract,
    Phospholipids,
    Cholecalciferol

    pharma replied 1 year, 7 months ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • gordof

    Member
    August 23, 2022 at 7:02 am

    I would assume it is the combination of Butters and Hard Waxes together with the Starch which helps with the rub-off. although Ceramide will give a pleasant feel afterward. 

  • graillotion

    Member
    August 23, 2022 at 8:27 am

    Gordof said:

    I would assume it is the combination of Butters and Hard Waxes together with the Starch which helps with the rub-off. although Ceramide will give a pleasant feel afterward. 

    I did see the corn starch hiding there….and as I have recently fallen in love with an Agrana corn starch (distarch phosphate).  I was wondering if it did not play in.

    This product has none of the heavy wax feel…of typical commercial products.

  • Lab

    Member
    August 23, 2022 at 12:53 pm

    If the point is spreadability and sensory, in addition to corn starch, the combination of beeswax with candelilla was probably responsible. Many products use jojoba oil (which is actually a liquid wax) and cocoa butter, which are harder and even mixed together give more firmness… I would venture that the oil/wax ratio is the key here.

    I noticed they used sucralose, maybe this has some specific property in this system when it’s melted for incorporation even in low concentration?

  • pharma

    Member
    August 23, 2022 at 1:46 pm

    Sucralose is a sweetener, so sweet that only very faint quantities are enough to give it a sweet taste; rheological effects aren’t likely at such minute amounts ;) .

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