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  • Why do we actually need chelating agents?

    Posted by Anonymous on November 9, 2016 at 8:49 am

    Hi everyone,

    I am working in personal care company. So my question is - why do we actually need chelating agents? What’s the job they do? :) Is it to make water more softer or to avoid corosion for example in dishwashing machines or washing machines? 

    Thank you.

    Chemist77 replied 7 years, 6 months ago 7 Members · 10 Replies
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  • johnb

    Member
    November 9, 2016 at 9:01 am

    Google is your friend

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelation

    + thousands more hits.

  • OldPerry

    Member
    November 15, 2016 at 1:01 am

    In cosmetics, they help the preservation system work better.

  • Dilfre

    Member
    November 16, 2016 at 3:05 am

    I think that they can also help emulsion stability when there is a high electrolytic concentration.

  • evauk

    Member
    November 16, 2016 at 4:28 pm

    The chelating agents added prior to the PC formulation bases  will block the Fe before discoloring reactions would occur with sensitive Fragrance components.

  • chemicalmatt

    Member
    November 18, 2016 at 3:28 pm

    They improve the activity of preservatives like Perry said, plus they are essential in shampoos and body washes in retarding redeposition.  Most of the world uses hard water and you never feel like the body wash rinses off right?  Add some EDTA to your formula and you become part of the solution, not the problem. (Yes, pun was intended.)

  • Chemist77

    Member
    November 20, 2016 at 9:32 am

    wow @chemicalmatt, so I am in a bit of a confusion here and that means I have to modify my formulation now. Its very stable and approved for all the features. 
    The issue as you said is redeposition where I have used certain silicone emulsions and which are to be deposited on the hair. Then I have a chelant called Dissolvine GL  38 and now I am having second thoughts since as you mentioned it will retard redeposition. 

  • johnb

    Member
    November 20, 2016 at 9:59 am

    If your formulation is “very stable and approved for all the features.” then there is no reason to change it.

  • Chemist77

    Member
    November 20, 2016 at 11:13 am

    @johnb thank you.

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    November 21, 2016 at 2:40 pm

    This is a lesson that we all have to re-learn every so often:
    “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”

  • Chemist77

    Member
    November 21, 2016 at 4:37 pm

    Very well said Bob.

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