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  • PhilGeis

    Member
    January 21, 2023 at 2:26 pm

    @BUNSEN87
    Sure -  “trend” means exploitation of consumer ignorance that sells ingredients with little safety information  and rejects those whose safety is well established.

  • Ghita37

    Member
    January 22, 2023 at 12:37 pm

    Thanks all 

  • healthybooth

    Member
    March 7, 2023 at 9:21 am

    Clean beauty is synonymous with non-toxic beauty. It is a term used to describe cosmetics and skincare products that are free from harmful chemicals.for more information you can visit this website https://www.healthybooth.com/

  • PhilGeis

    Member
    March 8, 2023 at 6:17 am

    @healthybooth

    Clean beauty is a technically meaningless marketing claim - there is no technical synonomity with safety or “non-toxic” ingredients. Ironically, many of the “clean beauty” ingredients (esp. preservatives) have very little human safety data in context while those rejected are a among the best qualified in terms of safety in use as document by the FDA and SCCP (e.g. https://www.fda.gov/cosmetics/cosmetic-ingredients/parabens-cosmetics).

    Please, if you insist on a technical basis for this makrei8ng claim - please provide the technical support. Repeating the marking BS does not establish its validity.

  • PhilGeis

    Member
    March 8, 2023 at 6:39 am

    @healthybooth

    I did not see ingredient listed on your website so can’t comment to your application of “clean beauty.”

    However, please understand safety is an affirmative process - you must have data that shows safety for all your “clean beauty ingredients and products re. appropriate endpoints - carcinogenicity, sensitization, irritation, eye safety, teratogenicity, preservative efficacy, etc.? Without such appropriate data - your product are not safe and in US would be labelled.

    “<strong style=”font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; color: var(-bb-body-text-color);”>Warning-The safety of this product has not been determined.”

  • MarkBroussard

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    March 8, 2023 at 7:41 am

    There is no such thing as “Clean Beauty” ingredients. Clean Beauty products use the same cosmetic ingredients as “Unclean” cosmetic products. The only difference is that a select group of approximately 50 ingredients are not used in clean beauty products. The safety requirements apply to any and all cosmetic products.

  • KMRCSMiami

    Member
    March 8, 2023 at 10:21 am

    As a formulation chemist, I loathe clean beauty. I find them to be unsupported by science and largely unsafe/stable. Every time I accept a proposal to improve product stability or shelf-life issues, its one of these “CLEAN”, “NATURAL”, “PRESERVATIVE FREE” products. 😅

    BUT I do formulate the client’s specifications, with every client having their own definition of CLEAN and NATURAL. Some are crazy restrictions, others are more flexible.

  • PhilGeis

    Member
    March 8, 2023 at 11:30 am

    @MarkBroussard

    So just “unclean” ingredients?

  • MarkBroussard

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    March 8, 2023 at 11:44 am

    The Clean and The Unclean … sounds like a Clint Eastwood movie!

    No, just “prohibited” ingredients

  • PhilGeis

    Member
    March 8, 2023 at 12:02 pm

    Parabens to Molokai !!! Or maybe Dreyfus to Devil’s Island.

    • This reply was modified 2 weeks ago by  PhilGeis.
    • MarkBroussard

      Professional Chemist / Formulator
      March 8, 2023 at 2:42 pm

      LOL! … good ones, Phil. Oh, really useful study you posted about Challenge Testing as a predictor of contamination in use.

  • MarkBroussard

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    March 9, 2023 at 7:19 pm

    These two formulas contain exactly the same ingredients, in the exact same percentages, with one exception - One contains parabens that are prohibited in all Clean Beauty standards. That’s Clean Beauty most simply defined … you cannot include any ingredients that are on the various prohibited lists:

    Clean Beauty Compliant

    Water, Niacinamide, Pentylene Glycol, Glycine Betaine (Beta Vulgaris) Beet Sugar Extract, Saccharide Isomerate, Zinc PCA, Sodium Hyaluronate, Dipotassium Glycyrrhizate, Glycyrrhiza Glabra (Licorice) Root Extract, Asiaticoside, Madecassic Acid, Asiatic Acid, Centella Asiatica (Gotu Kola) Extract, Camellia Sinensis (Green Tea) Extract, Citric Acid, Gluconolactone, Phenoxyethanol, Sodium Benzoate, Ethylhexylglycerin

    Not Clean Beauty Compliant

    Water, Niacinamide, Pentylene Glycol, Glycine Betaine (Beta Vulgaris) Beet Sugar Extract, Saccharide Isomerate, Zinc PCA, Sodium Hyaluronate, Dipotassium Glycyrrhizate, Glycyrrhiza Glabra (Licorice) Root Extract, Asiaticoside, Madecassic Acid, Asiatic Acid, Centella Asiatica (Gotu Kola) Extract, Camellia Sinensis (Green Tea) Extract, Citric Acid, Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Ethylparaben, Propylparaben, Butylparaben

    • Perry44

      Professional Chemist / Formulator
      March 10, 2023 at 8:15 am

      What’s to stop the “not compliant” marketer from just not listing the parabens to become compliant? I’ve seen it suggested that licorice root extract may be spiked with parabens to get it to work.

  • MarkBroussard

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    March 10, 2023 at 9:22 am

    Anyone can misprepresent what is or is not included in a cosmetic product by not listing ingredients that are actually in a product … that applies to any and all cosmetic products if the manufacturer is not ethical. Licorice Root Extract is a label ingredient, it’s not going to do anything under any circumstances.

  • Ghita37

    Member
    March 13, 2023 at 6:45 am

    Thank you all for your responses and contributions.I learned a lot once again with you 🙂

  • PhilGeis

    Member
    March 13, 2023 at 11:41 am

    @MarkBroussard

    You might point out which ingredients condemn the 2nd formula to the depths of the unclean.

    • This reply was modified 1 week, 2 days ago by  PhilGeis.
    • MarkBroussard

      Professional Chemist / Formulator
      March 13, 2023 at 11:43 am

      Yes, Phenoxy is allowed in Clean Beauty standards up to 1%

    • MarkBroussard

      Professional Chemist / Formulator
      March 13, 2023 at 2:34 pm

      @PhilGeis

      It’s only the parabens, Phil. All the other ingredients are allowed in Clean Beauty compliant formulas

  • Heroics123

    DIY formulator
    March 13, 2023 at 12:21 pm

    Well I am trying to find how to start a discussion because I have creation questions regarding handwash formulation. Kindly help a start a post. does it require any subscrition?

    • Ghita37

      Member
      March 14, 2023 at 11:34 am

      Hello Heroic. When you type on forum you will see GENERAL click on that and it will allow you to START A CONVERSATION.

      Let me know if it helps

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