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  • Water based pomade melting point

    Posted by varcc on November 13, 2023 at 2:54 am

    Hello, i currently had a problem with my water based pomade formula stability. It was melted at temperature around 40-46celcius. It change to water. Sometimes it becomes clear at 40celcius (supposed to be green). One day, my team put the pomade under the sun (34-37celcius) for about 2 hours, and the product become liquid instantly.

    My formula is Aqua 47,7%, Ceteareth-25 25%, Propylene Glycol 8%, PEG-7 Glyceryl Cocoate 5%, Glycerin 5%, PVP 3,5%, PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil 3%, Polysorbate 20 2%, Parfum 0,5%, DMDM Hydantoin 0,3%, CI 42090 (Blue) 0,0001%

    My question is, what makes it has low melting point? how to make it stable or how to increase the melting point?

    • This discussion was modified 6 months, 2 weeks ago by  varcc.
    Dirtnap1 replied 6 months, 1 week ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • chemicalmatt

    Member
    November 17, 2023 at 1:24 pm

    @farah.k There are several corrections to be made here. One is that much PVP is destabilizing and retarding this product’s gelation. Next thing is all that polyol is reducing the gelling temperature. Reduce by 50 - 75% all the above and see what happens.

    • varcc

      Member
      November 19, 2023 at 8:42 pm

      if I reduce PVP, would I get a strong hold pomade? because the PVP here was for hair fixing,

      And thank you, I’ll try to reduce Propylene Glycol and PEG-7 Glyceryl Cocoate to 4% and 2%

  • Dirtnap1

    Member
    November 23, 2023 at 6:06 pm

    I make a water based pomade and have a very stable formulation. My early formulations were close to what you listed.

    I can’t help with accurate percentages, but try reducing water a little. Reduce PG down to 1% same with PEG-7 GC and Glycerin. Remove PEG-40 as the Tween 20 will do what you need for the fragrance. Add a little Ceteareth-30 if you have it available. Your humectants/solubilizers are going to reduce hold and make it “watery”.

    Personally I would remove PEG-7 GC, Glycerin and PEG-40

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