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Vegan alternative to beeswax
I was using beeswax for my matte liquid lipstick formulation and I love how it feels a little sticky and hydrating. It was so good for matte liquids but I’d like to make a vegan alternative to it and I tried sunflower wax, microcrystalline wax, syntethic beeswax. But they were extremely drying and also muted my colors a little. Is there any good alternative for beeswax?
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18 Replies
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@akrep Have you tried with Candelilla or Carnauba waxes?
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IMHO … No, nothing is as good as beeswax. Why don’t you call your product “Beegan” … the bees are not harmed in any way and they are going to produce the wax under any circumsatances and the wax will be scraped off the hive to collect the honey.
Vegan can be a fairly ridiculous term/qualifier … consider that you are tying to make a “vegan” lipstick, but all of the other ingredients that you are including in your lipsticks are synthetic.
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@ketchito yes I forgot to mention about those ☹️
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@MarkBroussard you’re right I think cruelty free is enough, vegan is not a necessaire but the demand for vegan products can not be ignored.
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I don’t think that the demand for vegan products is truly that high. Vegans are only about 2% of the population. If you look at major brands like MAC, Estee Lauder, etc., who are huge, their products aren’t all vegan and yet sell very well. I think there is more of a demand for cruelty free than vegan. I often hear people say they refuse to purchase if not cruelty free, but I never hear that about vegan unless the person is vegan themselves. Also, beeswax is vegetarian and you can point out that using beeswax instead of a synthetic alternative can be better for the environment, which would of course affect the animals they want to protect. And raising bees helps keep the population up, which is necessary if we want to continue growing food!
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thank you @Joy I’ll think about that
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Joy said:Vegans are only about 2% of the population.
Assuming this is the USA then vegan being 2% of the population is still almost 7 million people (based on 332 million people in USA according to google).
This is still enough people to support a brand - even if you were only reach 10% of those. Vegans don’t support any animal exploitation and see bees being exploited for honey and beeswax (though many conveniently ignore the bee exploitation to product almond milk!).
Coming from a country of around 5 million, there are a couple of vegan brands doing quite well.
Not pro or anti vegan. But technical challenges of trying to meet vegan, cruelty free, Natural/organic standards etc is what keeps the job interesting to me.
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Oh, the irony of a Vegan Mattel Liquid Lipstick. Thank goodness I am able to purchase Vegan petrofuel for my automobile.
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@MarkBroussard I think your addition to the trade lexicon should go viral. “Beegan” got some legs to it, pal. Let’s all start using it.
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Wait! … I’m working on the Trademark
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If you substitute the bees wax with a wax that comes from a tropical country, you can pretty well bet your booties the PEOPLE who are harvesting the plant matter are NOT paid well and that native forests have been replaced with plantations, just for some cosmetic ingredient.
If you can get bees wax from Canada or the U.S. you can be quite sure the people collecting the wax are living under way better conditions than any of the people collecting plant matter made from tropically-grown ingredients. -
Have a look at their portfolio Products: Kahlwax they have a very good alternative for beeswax with similar properties I used it in various vegan formulations and I like it a lot .
Megaveggie Wax
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Ofcours beegan sonds nice as well
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@MarkBroussard Merry Christmas I’m going to tell people I’m turning Beegan in 2023 and see what reaction I get - (ie I believe in Bees
We have lots of varieties of bees on our garden in the tropics of North Queensland. They are happy little insects, so I reckon Beegan is the way to go. Happy 2023 all. -
@Herbnerd yes, also some people prefer vegan make-up products even if they are not vegan because they think it is not a necessity.
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@Margaret I completely think so. Veganism is a scam. I wish it could work but it won’t.
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@Gordof thank you so much
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I like rose wax, but it has a fragrance to it and it is expen$ive.
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